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The Book of Gert Yorkes

The Book of Gert Yorkes

C3G MARVEL WAVE 27
YOUNG MARVELS



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Arsenic and Old Lace Cards (Unofficial)
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The figure used for this unit is a modified HeroClix figure from the Hammer of Thor set.
Its model number and name is #058 / Gertrude Yorkes and Old Lace.

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Character Bio - Gert Yorkes, in many ways, stands out from a crowd. Purple hair. Biting sarcasm. Genetically engineered pet dinosaur. Alongside the rest of her Runaway allies, Gert discovered the secret supervillainous life of her parents, a pair of time-travelers and members of the Pride. While she didn't get any superpowers from her lineage, she did manage to snag herself the aforementioned pet dinosaur, affectionately named Old Lace. The psychic bond between the two is inseparable.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Gert may be placed on Old Lace's card at the start of the game with her Arsenic and Old Lace special power, allowing Old Lace additional attacks and changing her class to Runaway.
  • Gert's Runaway Morale special power allows you to add to your initiative roll for each Order Marker on a Runaway card in your army. Current Runaways.
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:_________________________________________________________________

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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes (Design Phase)

NAME = GERT YORKES


SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = RUNAWAY
PERSONALITY = CYNICAL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 2

MOVE = 4
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 1
DEFENSE = 2

POINTS = 30

ARSENIC AND OLD LACE

At the start of the game, if you control Old Lace and Gert is her Companion, you may place Gert on Old Lace’s Army Card. Order Markers may still be revealed on this card normally. As long as Gert is on Old Lace's Army Card, Old Lace has the class of Runaway in addition to the class listed on her card, and when Old Lace attacks, she may attack one additional time.

RUNAWAY MORALE
When rolling for initiative, if Gert is on the battlefield or on Old Lace's Army Card, you may add 1 to your roll for each Order Marker on the Army Card of a Runaway in your army.

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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

Looks good! Hits the theme nicely for both of them, and I like the drafting versatility. My only suggestion would be to make Runaway Morale maybe a little stronger; maybe change the restriction to requiring all your OMs on Runaways, and have it grant a +6 boost?

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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

Really cool.

You can Swift Carry on a Leap correct?

Gertrude will be a tasty addition to an Ares build.
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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

We could definitely pump up Runaway Morale. Any sort of initiative boost power... just a light touch. Essentially I want three units here.

Gert - Cheap enough that, if you have the points, she's essentially an auto-include for the Runaways.
Old Lace - A C unit that is draftable but not very good.
Combined - A solid Runaway unit, on par with the others.

My big concern is that Old Lace will be too good standalone. I know how potential Swift Carry is... so that's gonna be the challenge I think.

Good question on Leap! No idea if it works with Swift Carry... I think so?
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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

Yes, Swift Carry works anytime the figure is moved (as in it starts on one space and ends on another) on your turn.
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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

Yep, Swift Carry would work with Leap.

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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

I can see why you are running them both at the same time but will they eventually have their own threads?
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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

I really wish we'd just called all the dinosaurs Dinosaurs for species, instead of getting so specific. More in keeping with the way other, broader species work (for instance, ghosts and vampires are both Undead). Someday WizKids is going to put out a mini for Stegron the Dinosaur Man and I'm going to be stuck listing out an encyclopedia's worth of dinosaur names in order to get him synergizing properly.

Nitpicky tangent aside, I like the direction here.

I dunno that Old Lace really gets drafted sans Gert all that often. Giving a 5-attacker double attack strikes me as pretty good for such a small point investment, even if you're running Old Lace in a Martian Manhunter build or something instead of a Runaways one. Which is kinda-sorta what you're shooting for, but I'd say the cause is "Gert is a great value for Old Lace even if you have no other Runaways" more-so than "Old Lace is mediocre without Gert".

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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

We could recon the previous dinosaur cards, it wouldn't have any impact on the current game.
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Re: The Book of Gertrude Yorkes / Old Lace (Design Phase)

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We could recon the previous dinosaur cards, it wouldn't have any impact on the current game.
Technically, it could effect Starlord builds, but that's pretty irrelevant.

It's still a good idea to retcon the other dinos though, because frankly the way it is done now is just pointless stupidity. From looking back at older threads, it was apparently done for 'consistency' with other cards, but that goal was already a failure from the outset and never a useful goal anyway.

The 'species' on a Heroscape card is just a tag, it has no meaning or purpose except to make it easier to grant synergies to the right people. There are quite a few future cards that could care about 'Dinosaur' synergy in general, there are around zero that would specifically have 'Triceratops' synergy. The current setup is just inhibiting for no reason.


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