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The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu)

The Book of Meggan

C3G MARVEL PUBLIC EXCLUSIVE COLLECTION 13
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The figure used for this design is a Heroclix figure from the Sinister set.
Its model number and name are #076-078 / Meggan.

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Character Bio - Born in a blizzard to a British Romanichal family near Fenborough Station in England, Meggan adapted to the cold by growing fur, to the horror of her family. Unfortunately, as an empathic metamorph, the more they saw her as a monster, the more monstrous she became, growing webbing upon her hands and feet, antennae on her head, claws, and patagia. Eventually, she met Captain Britain and fought him, but then befriended him, and finally fell in love with him, joining him as an adventurer.

After having been told by a telepath that her inner soul looked as beautiful "as an iridescent butterfly", she stabilized her powers on an attractive form that pleased Brian (and thus pleased her). Captain Britain fell in love right back, and the two began a romantic relationship. Meggan then fought Gatecrasher's Technet alongside Captain Britain, Nightcrawler, Phoenix, and Shadowcat, and with them became a founding member of Excalibur. (
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: Can Meggan use "before taking a turn" or "after taking a turn" powers with Power Mimicry 13?
    A: No. Meggan's turn has already started when she uses Power Mimicry 13, so she can't use "before taking a turn" powers like Lobo's Blah Blah Healing Factor, Blah. Similarly, she loses copied powers at the end of her turn, so she cannot use "after taking a turn" powers like Mister Hyde's Healing Factor.
  • Q: Can Meggan use "after revealing an order marker" powers with Power Mimicry 13, if she revealed an Order Marker on her card?
    A: Yes, if the power is used during Meggan's turn. For example, if Meggan copied Larfleeze, you could use Orange Lantern Corps to take a turns with Orange Constructs, because that power is used "instead of attacking". Powers that trigger before or after Meggan's turn cannot be used.
  • Q: Can Meggan copy powers that reference "the start of the game" and/or place markers on her card with Power Mimicry 13?
    A: Yes, but she can only use the part of a power that happens during her turn. For example, if Meggan copied Baron Zemo (Heinrich) she would not gain any Masters of Evil Markers, but she would receive 1 additional attack die when attacking a figure with the Patriotic personality or with an Avenger Marker on its card.
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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

NAME = MEGGAN
SECRET IDENTITY = MEGGAN PUCEANU

SPECIES = MUTANT
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = EMPATH
PERSONALITY = SENSITIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 205

EMPATHIC METAMORPH

At the start of the game, you may choose a small, medium, or large Unique Hero you control that is not an Android, Construct, or Undead. Meggan is considered to have the species, class, and personality of the chosen Hero instead of what is on this card.

POWER MIMICRY 13
At the beginning of Meggan's turn, you may choose an adjacent Unique Hero. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 13 or higher, for the rest of Meggan's turn you may use any special powers on the chosen figure's Army Card, except powers that can only be used once per round or game. If the special power refers to the chosen figure or the chosen figure's card, it refers to Meggan or Meggan's card instead.

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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

Technically I think we're supposed to wait until Firestorm passes, but he's 60% of the way there so no big deal.

Honestly, I'm completely fine with the design as-is. Surprised to find out she's a Mutant, though - always assumed she was just a magical elf or something equally British. I guess my only niggle would be whether or not the "easier to Mimic when the figure is a Mutant" is really thematic or not. But I'm not experienced enough with the character to say either way.
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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

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always assumed she was just a magical elf or something equally British.



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I guess my only niggle would be whether or not the "easier to Mimic when the figure is a Mutant" is really thematic or not. But I'm not experienced enough with the character to say either way.
I think this power would extremely reusable if you just bumped the roll, and removed the easier to Mimic Mutants thing.

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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

I don't believe there has ever been any discussion that she has an easier time mimicing the powers of mutants, but she did it much more often. I also figured that making it harder to mimic others would reduce the number of builds we would have to really worry about in testing.

FWIW the power text is more or less a direct copy of Impossible Man's Shapeshifting Prankster, only with Mutants getting the boost instead of Scientists/Adventurers.
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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

fwiw, I like class and species based restrictions for the sake of competitive balance. Since it's only a boost here, though, I'm not sure how much that applies.

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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

Well you know I like it!

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Technically I think we're supposed to wait until Firestorm passes, but he's 60% of the way there so no big deal.
Yeah, technically this should have waited, but Firestorm's only a vote away, so I think we can let it slide.

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I kind of thought that as well. I don't remember her species being definitively stated in Excalibur, but it's been a while since I read any of the series. Wikipedia lists her species as a "Neuri" but doesn't go into anymore detail and later says she is a Mutant. Comicvine also has her listed as a Mutant, so I'd stick with that. Especially given that she'll use Empathic Metamorph in most games and end up with a Species from that anyway.

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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

I really love where this design is at. A couple thoughts:
1) Tricky doesn't feel quite right for her personality to me; my first thought would be to do something like "Unstable" or "Adaptable".
2) Could we have Empathic Metamorph also change her personality? Seems like it should thematically, and I can't think of any serious balance issues if it did (I mean, you could pair her with Red Skull so she could use the cube, but due to her stats being lower then Red Skull's I don't see that as a big deal).

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fwiw, I like class and species based restrictions for the sake of competitive balance. Since it's only a boost here, though, I'm not sure how much that applies.
I think it still applies, because if we removed the mutant bonus, we'd probably have to lower the regular number a bit. That said, most of the combos I'm worried about are mutant based, so arguably something like a 12+ universal cutoff would be less worrying.

As I said, I don't think it's ever been said that she's better at mimicking other mutants, but she does it more often. It was kind of a theme thing. I could drop it if people are more comfortable with that.

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Tricky doesn't feel quite right for her personality to me; my first thought would be to do something like "Unstable" or "Adaptable".
I almost went with Adaptable myself. I am definitely down with that. Any other thoughts?

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Could we have Empathic Metamorph also change her personality? Seems like it should thematically, and I can't think of any serious balance issues if it did (I mean, you could pair her with Red Skull so she could use the cube, but due to her stats being lower then Red Skull's I don't see that as a big deal).
I actually had personality in there initially, but it was the cube that talked me out of it. I also don't love her getting Insane synergies (particularly since I really don't like the idea of her having a better excuse to try to replicate Harley and throw the bomb).

Fearless and Valiant and Tricky and Patriotic all work for me, but Brilliant and Insane and Ruthless don't, as much. All told I lean slightly against adding personality. I could be convinced otherwise but that's my lean.
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fwiw, I like class and species based restrictions for the sake of competitive balance. Since it's only a boost here, though, I'm not sure how much that applies.
I think it still applies, because if we removed the mutant bonus, we'd probably have to lower the regular number a bit. That said, most of the combos I'm worried about are mutant based, so arguably something like a 12+ universal cutoff would be less worrying.

As I said, I don't think it's ever been said that she's better at mimicking other mutants, but she does it more often. It was kind of a theme thing. I could drop it if people are more comfortable with that.

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Tricky doesn't feel quite right for her personality to me; my first thought would be to do something like "Unstable" or "Adaptable".
I almost went with Adaptable myself. I am definitely down with that. Any other thoughts?

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Could we have Empathic Metamorph also change her personality? Seems like it should thematically, and I can't think of any serious balance issues if it did (I mean, you could pair her with Red Skull so she could use the cube, but due to her stats being lower then Red Skull's I don't see that as a big deal).
I actually had personality in there initially, but it was the cube that talked me out of it. I also don't love her getting Insane synergies (particularly since I really don't like the idea of her having a better excuse to try to replicate Harley and throw the bomb).

Fearless and Valiant and Tricky and Patriotic all work for me, but Brilliant and Insane and Ruthless don't, as much. All told I lean slightly against adding personality. I could be convinced otherwise but that's my lean.
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Re: The Book of Meggan (Meggan Puceanu) (Design Phase)

Yeah, I'm not big on 'Tricky' for Personality. 'Adaptable' is better, though it doesn't seem perfect. 'Empathetic' works but an Empathetic Empath might be overkill. 'Sensitive', maybe?

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