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The Book of Stature

The Book of Stature

C3G MARVEL WAVE 27
YOUNG MARVELS



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Avengers set.
Its model number and name are #011 / Stature.

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Character Bio - Cassie Lang was born with a heart condition. An attempt to cure this condition led to her father, Scott Lang, stealing Hank Pym's equipment, becoming the second Ant-Man, and joining the Avengers. Growing up around this new environment exposed Cassie not only to a life of heroism, but also to Pym Particles, which she stole from her father's lab.

The effect the Pym Particles would have on her did not display themselves until Cassie, along with Kate Bishop, attempted to join Iron Lad's new team of Young Avengers. The group denied her membership, until the anger Cassie felt at this led to her growing in size. Adopting the codename Stature, Cassie became a full-fledged and well-loved member of the team. During this time, she grew very close to Iron Lad, and was saddened when he returned to the future.

Her tenure with the Young Avengers eventually came to a violent end. Stature brought her father forward in time to prevent his death, only to see him apparently struck down by Doctor Doom. In a fit of rage, Stature charged the supervillain, and was killed. Shortly after this, the first Young Avengers team disbanded. However, in a period where his evil nature was inverted, Doctor Doom felt remorse over his killing of Cassie, and revived her through magical means.

Cassie now tries to live the life of a normal teenage girl, but she will always be a hero, and in her heart she is still Stature.

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-Rulings and Clarifications-
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
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Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • As a huge figure, Stature interacts differently with these special powers.
  • As a potential tiny figure, Stature may interact differently with these special powers.
  • As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Stature interacts differently with these special powers.
  • Tiny figures are not affected by Stature's Tiny Stealth special power and can prevent her from moving with her Carried special power. Current tiny figures.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

NAME = STATURE
SECRET IDENTITY = CASSANDRA LANG

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ROOKIE
PERSONALITY = INSECURE

SIZE/HEIGHT = HUGE 8

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 160


PYM PARTICLE TRANSFORMATION
Start the game with a red Pym Marker. At the start of the game, and after revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may place or remove the Pym Marker. While the Pym Marker is on this card, Stature's size and height are considered to be tiny 2; she subtracts two from her Move, Attack and Defense numbers; and she cannot use her Gigantic Reach or Super Strength special powers. Stature may only use her Tiny Stealth and Carried special powers while she is tiny.

GIGANTIC REACH
Stature may add 1 to her range when attacking a figure whose base is no more than 6 levels higher than her height or 6 levels lower than her base.

CARRIED
Before moving a friendly adjacent figure that is not tiny, if Stature is not engaged with any tiny figure, you may choose that figure for Stature's Carried special power. After moving the chosen figure, you may place Stature on any unoccupied space adjacent to the chosen figure.

TINY STEALTH
Stature cannot be targeted by non-adjacent figures and only takes leaving engagement attacks from tiny figures.

SUPER STRENGTH

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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

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This is the first of many Young Avengers designs to come. The faction should have lots of synergy, so I'm starting with a design that doesn't offer any to other parts of the faction, though Carried should help her play nicely with them.

Are we all happy with the Class of Rookie? I know there have been some objections in the past, but it's my favorite option for the Young Avengers.

Giant Reach, yea or nay? I'd be fine with switching it out with Giant Defense or another power to represent her larger form. Or even dropping it for another "tiny form" power to let her be more useful when she's small, and letting her stats represent her larger form.

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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

Excited to see the Young Avengers starting up!

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Are we all happy with the Class of Rookie? I know there have been some objections in the past, but it's my favorite option for the Young Avengers.
I like Rookie.

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Giant Reach, yea or nay? I'd be fine with switching it out with Giant Defense or another power to represent her larger form. Or even dropping it for another "tiny form" power to let her be more useful when she's small, and letting her stats represent her larger form.
I prefer sticking with Giant Reach. It gives her a fun flavor power for when she's huge without it really being that strong (which helps to keep going tiny useful). I do worry a little bit about players not wanting to "sacrifice" a turn early on to shrink her down, but maybe it won't be an issue.

Also, it still says "Atom" at the end of Carried when it should be "Stature".

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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

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Excited to see the Young Avengers starting up!

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Are we all happy with the Class of Rookie? I know there have been some objections in the past, but it's my favorite option for the Young Avengers.
I like Rookie.

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Giant Reach, yea or nay? I'd be fine with switching it out with Giant Defense or another power to represent her larger form. Or even dropping it for another "tiny form" power to let her be more useful when she's small, and letting her stats represent her larger form.
I prefer sticking with Giant Reach. It gives her a fun flavor power for when she's huge without it really being that strong (which helps to keep going tiny useful). I do worry a little bit about players not wanting to "sacrifice" a turn early on to shrink her down, but maybe it won't be an issue.

Also, it still says "Atom" at the end of Carried when it should be "Stature".
so you would prefer something like this added...

PYM PARTICLE TRANSFORMATION
At the beginning of the game you may place the Red Pym Marker on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may place or remove the Red Pym Marker. While the Pym Marker is on this card, Stature's Size and Height are considered to be Tiny 2, she subtracts two from her Move, Attack and Defense Numbers and she cannot use her Gigantic Reach or Super Strength special powers. Stature may only use her Tiny Stealth and Carried special powers while she is Tiny.

or something along that line...I agree.

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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

I don't have a problem with Rookie. I believe A3n was the biggest objector to that sort of thing.

A few notes:

- I think she should be Cassie Lang rather than Cassandra; that's how she tends to be known.
- Not 100% sure Conflicted works for her. She's tends to veer between angry and depressed, which is nominally conflicted, but I feel different implications from the word. I think something more emotion-based feels right for the character.
- She very rarely shrinks in my experience, so I think it being a bit cumbersome to utilize her shrinking is more a feature than a bug. I'd like to keep that if possible.
- That being said, we don't necessarily need to drop her Defense when she shrinks; most other Tiny units have 5-6 Defense to represent their dodging. I could go either way on it.
- I kind of wish we could somehow integrate the link between her emotions and her size, but... I think it'd get too fiddly. I think a simpler design suits a character of her stature (no pun intended!).
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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

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I do worry a little bit about players not wanting to "sacrifice" a turn early on to shrink her down, but maybe it won't be an issue.
I'd be fine with marker starting on the card. She usually enters battles while tiny and grows when needed. It would also be clearer where the marker starts then.

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- I think she should be Cassie Lang rather than Cassandra; that's how she tends to be known.

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- Not 100% sure Conflicted works for her. She's tends to veer between angry and depressed, which is nominally conflicted, but I feel different implications from the word. I think something more emotion-based feels right for the character.
Conflicted wasn't sitting quite right with me either, but I had trouble thinking of anything else. I'm open to suggestions!
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- That being said, we don't necessarily need to drop her Defense when she shrinks; most other Tiny units have 5-6 Defense to represent their dodging. I could go either way on it.
I could roll with that. One advantage she does have over other Tiny units is her Life. Most of them are much lower.
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- I kind of wish we could somehow integrate the link between her emotions and her size, but... I think it'd get too fiddly. I think a simpler design suits a character of her stature (no pun intended!).
Yeah, I feel it's a lot of complexity for a little theme. From what I remember, her emotions only affected her size in a single issue, and even that wasn't part of the main storyline.

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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

I really wish there were a tiny figure for her available. I like the design overall, but it just seems like it'll feel unthematic to have the huge figure on the map and consider her "tiny" in the moment. (Of course, this already occurs with the Shrinking Ray, so I suppose that ship has sailed).

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Re: The Book of Stature - Design Phase

The emotion thing continues but in a more subtle way - she grows when she's angry and pushes beyond her limits when she's REALLY angry. The whole "shrinking violet" problem was a one-off though. But yeah it's relatively minor for the complexity it'd add.
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I really wish there were a tiny figure for her available. I like the design overall, but it just seems like it'll feel unthematic to have the huge figure on the map and consider her "tiny" in the moment. (Of course, this already occurs with the Shrinking Ray, so I suppose that ship has sailed).
Yeah, it would be great to do it that way, but our options are limited without a mini. People are encouraged to proxy though! I know I'll switch her out with Ant-Man's mini when she shrinks.

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I do worry a little bit about players not wanting to "sacrifice" a turn early on to shrink her down, but maybe it won't be an issue.
I'd be fine with marker starting on the card. She usually enters battles while tiny and grows when needed. It would also be clearer where the marker starts then.
You could just say you put the marker on when she grows then add instead of subtract.
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I do worry a little bit about players not wanting to "sacrifice" a turn early on to shrink her down, but maybe it won't be an issue.
I'd be fine with marker starting on the card. She usually enters battles while tiny and grows when needed. It would also be clearer where the marker starts then.
You could just say you put the marker on when she grows then add instead of subtract.
Pretty much the same, mechanically speaking. I think it's probably cleanest just to have her start with the marker on her card. That's typically how we've done it before.

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