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The Book of Red Mist

The Book of Red Mist

C3G ICON WAVE 21
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the KA2 set.
Its model number and name are #004 / Chris D'Amico.

Its model number and name are #103 / Chris D'Amico.


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Character Bio - At the same time the popularity of superhero Kick-Ass grew, the crime lord Johnny G was running into problems with other, more serious superheroes: Hit-Girl and Big Daddy. Thinking they were all related, Johnny G set out against Kick-Ass, the only widely known hero. Chris Genevese, Johnny G's son, adopted a superhero persona, Red Mist, to befriend Kick-Ass and lure all the heroes into an unsuccessful trap. After the demise of Johnny G, Chris swore revenge against Kick-Ass. He vowed to become the world's first supervillain, traveling to Asia to train under martial arts grandmasters. But after he realized they were swindling him for money, he decided he didn't need awesome fighting skills or unique abilities to be a supervillain: his actual superpower is that he's rich as ****.
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

NAME = RED MIST
SECRET IDENTITY = CHRIS GENEVESE

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIME LORD
PERSONALITY = SPOILED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 3

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 2
DEFENSE = 2

POINTS = 50


PAYOFF
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Red Mist, you may choose a Unique Criminal Hero within 3 clear sight spaces of Red Mist and reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card.
  • If you control the chosen Hero, you may take an immediate turn with the chosen Hero.
  • If you do not control the chosen Hero, once per game, you may take temporary control of that Hero and immediately take a turn with that Hero. At the end of that turn, control of the Hero returns to the player who controlled the Hero before the Payoff. All Order Markers that were on the chosen Hero's card will stay on the card. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.
COWARDLY TACTICS
Anytime Red Mist would receive one or more wounds, you may instead destroy any common or squad figure you control adjacent to Red Mist.

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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

Obviously going to need some wording touch ups, but I think the theme is pretty darned strong and comes across well, while also being useful for a cheap figure.

Only thing I want to discuss is his name. In the comic/film, he's known as the Mother****er, which we obviously can't put on a card. We could go Red Mist, but that was his Hero persona that he shed for his new villain persona, so it's not technically correct. We could use the classes abbreviation/censor Mofo, which a lot of people call him when they have to censor it, but it is still borderline. Otherwise just call him Chris Geneveve.

Personally, I'd prefer Mofo, with just Chris being my least favorite choice. But I totally understand if you guys are against that. Or maybe we could make two cards, with different names, make everyone happy.
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

Maybe bullet points would make Payoff read better, hmm.
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

Looks pretty solid. I like the theme behind Payoff, but I wonder if the number of markers might need to come up to ensure that he's worth the draft pick. The Criminals have a few OM controllers already. Given his low stats and limited number of activations, we'll have to make sure he's definitely draftable. That can be worked out through testing though.

As for the name, I'm very against both Mother****er and Mofo. Both cross a line I'd rather not, as there are too many young children who enjoy C3G, my 7 year old brother being one of them. Red Mist works for me, but I'd it's not accurate, then I'd go with his real name.

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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

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Looks pretty solid. I like the theme behind Payoff, but I wonder if the number of markers might need to come up to ensure that he's worth the draft pick. The Criminals have a few OM controllers already. Given his low stats and limited number of activations, we'll have to make sure he's definitely draftable. That can be worked out through testing though.
I see him as a late game type figure. Use your heavy hitter Crime Lords, then when all you have left is Chris, a Criminal or two and some thugs, the thugs protect him, and when they're gone, Chris can beef up your Criminals (Or actually thugs as written now. Do we want a Unique Hero limitation?)

Probably going to give Mother Russia some little bonus for getting an automatic skull, as well, so they work together.

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As for the name, I'm very against both Mother****er and Mofo. Both cross a line I'd rather not, as there are too many young children who enjoy C3G, my 7 year old brother being one of them. Red Mist works for me, but I'd it's not accurate, then I'd go with his real name.
We could do alternate cards with different names, then. We just did this with Witchblade, actually, since there were some reservations about how skimpy her outfit is.
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

Yes to the Unique Hero restriction.

And yeah, the temporary turn is missing some necessary language (OM staying on the card and all that).

I could see starting with 4 markers, for up to two turns with an enemy figure or up to 4 turns with his own. I don't want him to be too good for the cost, though.

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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

Yeah, forgot the OM thing. I definitely don't want to see him high at all. Anything above 60-65 is going to make me leery. Ventriloquist is at 90, and he's much more of an organized threat than Chris ever was (Of course, Ventriloquist was against Batman, while there are no real superheroes like that in Chris's world).
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

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Yes to the Unique Hero restriction.

And yeah, the temporary turn is missing some necessary language (OM staying on the card and all that).

I could see starting with 4 markers, for up to two turns with an enemy figure or up to 4 turns with his own. I don't want him to be too good for the cost, though.
I'd be against Mofo also as the main card, we can certainly do an alternate card. If Red Mist was his hero name then it's probably best to just use his civilian name.
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

I'd really like a "The Mother****er" with grawlix. "The Mother&!@?er" or something - you know, a lot more comic-y than just stars. Of course that could be for more private use... I'd probably just go with his straight name rather than the Red Mist since that's inaccurate at this point in his career.

Any reason we're not reusing the Investment Markers off of Black King?
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

It's not an investment, he literally throws stacks of cash
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Re: The Book of Red Mist ~~ Design Phase

Yeah, but we already have markers that are big dollar signs, it feels weird to have two of those.
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