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The Book of Mole Machine

The Book of Mole Machine

C3G MARVEL SUPER SECRET EXCLUSIVE 17
SUBTERRANEAN SURPRISE!



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The figure used for this unit is a Hasbro figure from the G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra set.
Its name is Lava Pod.

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Character Bio - "A Mole Machine is a machine used to excavate tunnels with a circular cross section through a variety of soil and rock strata while limiting the disturbance to the surrounding ground and producing a smooth tunnel wall." (Wikipedia 2012).
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Base Clarification:
    Mole Machine occupies 4 spaces in a straight line from the back of its cab.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
  • Initial playtest: tcglkn
  • Second playtest: Hahma
  • Art by A3n

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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

NAME = MOLE MACHINE

OCCUPANCY = 4

SIZE/HEIGHT = HUGE 9

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 0
DEFENSE = 8


SUBTERRANEAN MOVEMENT
This Mole Machine may only be moved by this special power and can never have its Move number increased. Instead of moving this Mole Machine normally, you may choose any empty land spaces. Place this Mole Machine on the chosen spaces. After this Mole Machine is moved by this special power, place all figures you control that were on top of it on spaces previously occupied by this Mole Machine. Figures moved with this special power never take any leaving engagement attacks but will receive any falling damage that may apply.

DRILLING DAMAGE
After moving this Mole Machine with the Subterranean Movement special power, roll 1 unblockable attack die against each figure adjacent to it.



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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

Right now the big thing to decide is the number of spaces this thing will occupy. Here are the pros and cons of each (pictures in the OP to go by):
3 spaces: Pros: more manuverability with the drill being able to hang off of overhangs and what not. Cons: Major "Stinger denial" issues with the drill part of the figure being all but unattackable by melee figures since figures could be adjacent to it without being adjacent to any of the spaces the Mole Machine occupies.

4 spaces: Pros: Perfect for 4 occupancy for the Fantastic 4 who might have created one of these to explore Subterranea. Cons: Still some stinger denial issues, but not as bad as some shorter figures can actually fit under the tip of the drill if that space is the same level as the rest of the Mole Machine. (see Magma in the 3 pic in the OP)

5 spaces: Pros: No denial issues and possibly an occupancy of 5 to allow Mole Man to bring more Moloids along for the ride. Cons: Much harder to place on a map with it needing 5 same-level spaces in a straight line.

I personally am leaning towards 4 spaces, but I would love to hear each of you guy's opinions on the matter. We'll just need to decide the occupancy based on the number of spaces we choose for the Mole Machine to occupy.

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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

Where did you get with seeing if the ants could fit under the front of this thing on the 4th space?
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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

They could easily, see the pictures I added to the OP. The question is do we want to create huge denial issues just to allow a few incredibly short figures to fit under the drill there.

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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

I'm happy to back the LD on spaces here, since he's had it in hand and his reasoning seems sound.

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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

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I'm happy to back the LD on spaces here, since he's had it in hand and his reasoning seems sound.
I really dislike denial crap, so just disallowing it outright will fix it.
Otherwise a solid, simple design.
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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

I don't mind Stinger Denial, but I've never been a stickler about that sort of thing and allow figures to fit there anyways. So personally I'd like 3 spaces, but if people who DO pay attention to that think it's bad 4 is probably better.
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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

Just so we're clear, 4 spaces does allow for some denial but it also allows a fair number of figures to fit on those spaces. Personally, I feel like 2 spaces of huge denial is too much.

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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

Just so everybody can see what you are proposing:

To me the 4th space is like so many other mini's that have bits/weapons that hang over the adjacent space.

I still say it shouldn't be more then 3 spaces.

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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

Actually it's a bit off in that picture. If it was scooted forward on the tiles, the cab would occupy a full 3 spaces and the drill would extend 2. The little wheels on the bottom made it hard to position right, but I plan on removing them as they don't do anything for us.

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Re: The Book of Mole Machine: Design

4 spaces seems a nice middle-ground

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