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The Book of Spoiler

The Book of Spoiler

C3G DC PUBLIC EXCLUSIVE COLLECTION 8
SECRETS AND LIES




Comic PDF



Mini PDF


The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Legacy set.
Its model number and name are #001-003 / Spoiler.

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Character Bio - Stephanie Brown is the daughter of the Cluemaster, one of Gotham City's third-rate criminals. Her father spent most of her childhood in jail or away from the family. He claims to be rehabilitated upon his return to Gotham, but Stephanie becomes furious when she discovers that he is actually returning to crime, this time not leaving his trademark clues behind. She decides something needs to be done. Stephanie tailors a costume for herself, and calls herself The Spoiler due to her attempts to "spoil" her father's plans. She learns where her father is hiding out, finds out his plans, and leaves clues so that the police and Batman could stop him. Robin tracks her down and, after a few brief confrontations, helps capture Cluemaster. Although she initially wishes to kill her father, Batman convinces her to allow him to be arrested. Eventually, she decides she likes being a superheroine, and she begins regular patrols as the Spoiler. (Wikipedia)
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Spoiler make take a turn after a Sidekick Hero you control with her Sidekick Shadow special power. Current Sidekick Heroes.
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Last edited by japes; July 29th, 2018 at 05:40 PM.
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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

NAME = SPOILER

SECRET IDENTITY = STEPHANIE BROWN

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = LONER
PERSONALITY = RECKLESS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 50

SIDEKICK SHADOW
After revealing an Order Marker on a Sidekick Hero you control and taking a turn with that Sidekick, if Spoiler is within 6 clear sight spaces of that Sidekick, you may take an immediate turn with Spoiler. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.

CRIME SPOILER
If you win initiative, you may choose a Crime Lord or Criminal adjacent to Spoiler to receive a wound.

BAT-GRAPPLE 3
Instead of her normal move, Spoiler may use her Bat-Grapple. Bat-Grapple has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Bat-Grapple, ignore elevations. Spoiler may grapple over water without stopping, grapple over figures without becoming engaged, and grapple over obstacles such as ruins. Spoiler may not grapple more than 30 levels up or down in a single grapple. When Spoiler starts her Bat-Grapple, she will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

Main things I want to figure out right now. Do we like Crime Spoiler as is? Are we fine with it being as niche as it is? She herself won't be very niche, especially with more sidekicks coming out, she'll make her way into any sort of army. Just that one power.
Also, Batgrapple or no Batgrapple? It would give her mobility, it might not be totally thematically accurate since she's not Robin when she's Spoiler (obviously ). Does she even need a grapple?

Stats I think are fine, unless someone objects.
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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

I might want to see the downside of Crime Spoiler removed - make it just an "if you win" clause - if only for simplicity. No opinion on Bat-Grapple either way; not sure if it's thematic or not honestly.

Also, BIGGER PICTURE of Spoiler that's similar but a big blurrier... also THIS nice one of her face that's not really usable but I'd like to share anyways.
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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

Really glad to see this design finally given some light.

Will comment in the morning.

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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

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I might want to see the downside of Crime Spoiler removed - make it just an "if you win" clause - if only for simplicity. No opinion on Bat-Grapple either way; not sure if it's thematic or not honestly.

Also, BIGGER PICTURE of Spoiler that's similar but a big blurrier... also THIS nice one of her face that's not really usable but I'd like to share anyways.
I like the risk part of Crime Spoiler.

Thanks for the pic! I know the one I have isn't a great one, not very many good pics of her to choose from.
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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

I think that ending the round engaged to an enemy figure is risk enough, though, particularly for a relatively low-stat figure.
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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

If she could wound more then one figure with Crime Spoiler it would make the risk more worthwhile. This power becomes less useful with each additional player.

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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

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I think that ending the round engaged to an enemy figure is risk enough, though, particularly for a relatively low-stat figure.
This. I agree completely with dropping the negative aspect for this reason. Otherwise the power is completely neutral in terms of value, and maybe even a drawback overall. I prefer it to have some positive value if it's going to be niche like it is.

Also, to accentuate the risk involved in her being in melee, since her stats are very weak, I'd love to see her get some range so that she can attack from range and moving in close is more of a strategic decision to make something like Crime Spoiler work.

Also, I'd like to see the following change just for more coverage, just in case:

SIDEKICK SHADOW

After revealing an Order Marker on a Sidekick card you control and taking a turn with that Sidekick, if Spoiler is within 6 clear sight spaces of that Sidekick, you may take an immediate turn with Spoiler. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.

And, yeah, I'd say give her Bat-Grapple. She's always swinging around the rooftops at night. I'm happy imagining Tim let her borrow some gear. They never really did explain how some nobody from the suburbs got all the stuff she got anyway. And she's clearly a part of the Bat Family, so I think it's kosher.

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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

Does she use range in the comics, though? I've never seen her throw anything, and she obviously doesn't have Batarangs.
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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

Good question. If I were in Michigan, I could track down some old Robin comics to get a good answer ... It's been a while. Can anyone help with a definitive answer on that one?

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Re: The Book of Spoiler (Design Phase)

Visual proof of Bat-Grapple, btw:


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