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The Book of Carnage

The Book of Carnage

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THE WEB OF SPIDER-MAN



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Web of Spider-Man set.
Its model number and name are #018 / Carnage.

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Character Bio - Kasady is a serial killer that shared a cell with Eddie Brock in prison, who had lost the alien symbiote that transformed him into the supervillain Venom. Brock's symbiote soon returns and bonds with him again, and unwittingly leaves behind the symbiote's offspring. The symbiotes reproduce asexually and the children are then of no consequence to the parent; hence, Brock's symbiote felt no need to inform Brock of the existence of its offspring. The new symbiote entered Kasady's bloodstream through a cut and bonds with his blood, transforming him into Carnage. He escaped prison, and began a series of murders, and at the scene of each crime, wrote "Carnage" on the walls with his own blood. He was found by Spider-Man, though the hero proved to be no match for Carnage's powers. In desperation, Spider-Man made a truce with Venom to fight Carnage and Carnage was defeated with sonic weaponry, but lived on because it had merged with Kasady's bloodstream. Kasady and his symbiote hate Spider-Man, and blame him for ruining his fun in killing the people of New York.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: When Carnage attacks an opponent's figure next to his 5th Precinct Beat Cop, and the opponent destroys the Cop, does this trigger Carnage's Kill Crazy?

    A: No. The 5th Precinct Beat Cops' card instructs the player of the defending figure to "destroy" the Cop, not the attacking player. Since the attacker technically is not the one destroying the figure, Carnage does not get the benefit of Kill Crazy. This precedent was established in Classic Heroscape with the Horned Skull Brutes.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • N/A
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
  • As an Insane figure, Carnage is immune to a number of abilities, such as Beast's Negotiation and Yellow Lantern (Thaal Sinestro)'s Force of Fear Special Attack.
  • As a Symbiote, Carnage is particularly vulnerable to sonic attacks and powers such as Boomerang's Screamarang Special Attack and Silver Banshee's Accursed Wail. However, he makes for an excellent Spider hunter...
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NAME = CARNAGE
SECRET IDENTITY = CLETUS KASADY

SPECIES = SYMBIOTE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = PSYCHOPATH
PERSONALITY = INSANE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 280


SYMBIOTE SENSES 13
If Carnage is attacked and at least 1 skull is rolled, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 13 or higher, Carnage takes no damage and may immediately use his Tendril Swing 3 special power.

TENDRIL SWING 3
Instead of his normal move, Carnage may use his Tendril Swing. Tendril Swing has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Carnage's Tendril Swing movement, ignore elevations. Carnage may swing over water without stopping, swing over figures without becoming engaged, and swing over obstacles such as ruins. Carnage may not Tendril Swing more than 40 levels up or down in a single Tendril Swing. When Carnage uses Tendril Swing, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks. After using Tendril Swing 3, you may use it one additional time.

KILL CRAZY
When Carnage destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, he may attack again. Roll 1 additional attack die for each figure he destroyed this turn. Carnage may continue attacking with his normal attack until he does not destroy a figure.

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Old March 20th, 2012, 03:57 AM
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All powers used before, all perfectly thematic , nothing left to say.
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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

Looks good. As A3n said they are all previous powers so there's no issue with them and while I don't really know this guy (was never into Symbiotes), he seems right.

I thought I had pictures in the Brainstorming thread for this guy but can't check without that link anymore (quick trigger fingers). But I managed to dig them up anyway as fortunately I had them somewhere else too.






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I thought I had pictures in the Brainstorming thread for this guy but can't check without that link anymore (quick trigger fingers). But I managed to dig them up anyway as fortunately I had them somewhere else too.
I'm not sure I ever transfered this from Good Pig's list. You realize at the bottom of each page there is a search this thread function that would make it easy for you to find your pictures right?


Design looks solid. Nothing to add right now.

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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

Looks spot on! Love it.

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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

GP and I fleshed this design out while we were working on Venom. So thanks goes to GP on such a tight design.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 01:24 PM
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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

Hmmmm..... One thing that does concern me now that I think of it,

KILL CRAZY
When Carnage destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, he may attack again. Roll 1 additional attack die for each figure he destroyed this turn. Carnage may continue attacking with his normal attack until he does not destroy a figure.

That power plus a range of 3 (which is appropriate and thematic), is probably too powerful. I wonder if just lowering his attack to 5 would really help.
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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

Guess it depends on the power level we're going for with this guy. Three spaces isn't that huge of a threat range and killing is tough to pull off multiple times in a turn, and thematically I'm OK with this guy being an absolute beast. But you've got experience with this power on another unit that will be released after Carnage, so if you're thinking it's too much, I trust you.

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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

Awesome Griffin. Glad you were able to run with this. I envisioned Carnage being around a 300 point figure give or take because Spidey and Venom have to team up to take him down. His attack level is tough to theoryscape without actually playing in a game (preferably vs squaddies and weaker heroes).

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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

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Guess it depends on the power level we're going for with this guy. Three spaces isn't that huge of a threat range and killing is tough to pull off multiple times in a turn, and thematically I'm OK with this guy being an absolute beast. But you've got experience with this power on another unit that will be released after Carnage, so if you're thinking it's too much, I trust you.
I am really thinking that an "adjacency" restriction or a cap of "up to 6 attacks" would best. I am leaning to the last option though. Neither one would upset Non's tests, while both would require that he gets updated.
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Awesome Griffin. Glad you were able to run with this. I envisioned Carnage being around a 300 point figure give or take because Spidey and Venom have to team up to take him down. His attack level is tough to theoryscape without actually playing in a game (preferably vs squaddies and weaker heroes).
I agree. His the BA of Symbiotes, and he should be very dangerous. Somehow I knew you would be popping in here today.
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Re: The Book of Carnage - Designing

I kind of like the simplicity of the power text right now, though. Are you worried about squaddies, mid-level heroes, or both?

I think going down to an attack of 5 feels more appealing than revising the text, personally.

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