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The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West)

The Book of Kid Flash

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Crisis set.
Its model number and name are #002 / Kid Flash.

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Character Bio - "Wally West is [...] the nephew of the existing Flash character's girlfriend and later wife, Iris West. During a visit to the Central City police laboratory where Barry Allen worked, the freak accident that gave Allen his powers repeated itself, bathing West in electrically-charged chemicals. Now possessing the same powers as the Flash, West donned a smaller sized copy of Barry Allen's Flash outfit and became the young crimefighter Kid Flash [...] In addition to his appearances within the Flash title, the character was used as a member of the newly created Teen Titans." (wikipedia.org 2011)
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Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities
  • As a figure with the Superspeed special power, Kid Flash does not roll a fewer defense die against Professor Zoom's Negative Speed Force Special Attack.
Benefits
  • As a Sidekick, Kid Flash can stop Talia Al Ghul from attacking via her Divided Loyalty special power.
Weaknesses
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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West)

NAME = KID FLASH
SECRET IDENTITY = WALLY WEST

SPECIES = METAHUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SIDEKICK
PERSONALITY = TRICKY

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 9
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = 110


SUPERSPEED
Kid Flash may move through all figures, never takes leaving engagement attacks, and does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces. After taking a turn with Kid Flash, if he did not use his Slipstreaming special power this round, he may move up to an additional 4 spaces.

SLIPSTREAMING
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Unique Hero you control that is adjacent to Kid Flash and immediately after moving that Unique Hero, you may move Kid Flash up to the same number of spaces the Unique Hero moved. Kid Flash must end his movement on a space the Unique Hero moved onto this turn.

SPEED DODGE 2
When Kid Flash defends against an attack, and you roll at least one blank, Kid Flash takes no damage and may immediately move up to 2 spaces.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Solid design. Nothing to add now.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Cool. Thanks.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

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SLIPSTREAMING
If you reveal an Order Marker on a figure you control that is adjacent to Kid Flash, immediately after moving that figure, you may move Kid Flash up to 4 spaces, or up to 6 spaces if the figure you moved has the Superspeed special power.
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SLIPSTREAMING
If you reveal an Order Marker on a figure you control that is adjacent to Kid Flash, immediately aAfter moving that a figure you control that was adjacent to Kid Flash before it moved, you may move Kid Flash up to 4 spaces, or up to 6 spaces if the figure you moved has the Superspeed special power.
  1. Order Markers are not revealed on figures
  2. This is ultimately clearer in terms of how it will work with squads.
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SLIPSTREAMING
After moving a figure you control that was adjacent to Kid Flash before it moved, you may move Kid Flash up to 4 spaces, or up to 6 spaces if the figure you moved has the Superspeed special power.
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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

What Griff said is correct, however I'm not sure if I like the potential for him to move twice (or more) in a turn that isn't his. Once is cool but I don't know about the extra. With a move of 13 he doesn't need that much more of a boost. In short I think the revealing an OM on the figures card needs to be in there.

Alternatively you could have it work the other way where he is creating the slip-stream & another figure gets sucked along.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

The other Superspeed special powers require the figure not to use its SA in order to get the extra 4 move. Since Kid Flash doesn't have a SA to not use, it really isn't the same power.

Also I agree with A3n - when I first read the power title, I thought Slipstreaming was going to pull another figure along with Kid Flash, not the other way around.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

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What Griff said is correct, however I'm not sure if I like the potential for him to move twice (or more) in a turn that isn't his. Once is cool but I don't know about the extra. With a move of 13 he doesn't need that much more of a boost. In short I think the revealing an OM on the figures card needs to be in there.
Hmm, yeah, the OM was there to keep it to one move per OM. I'll have to think about if there's a way to word it to keep that restriction in place or think about if there's a different way to word it.
If we can't get that to work, I could always lower the bonus move to like 2 or 3 spaces and let it work with multiple figures. I welcome thoughts on this.

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Alternatively you could have it work the other way where he is creating the slip-stream & another figure gets sucked along.
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Also I agree with A3n - when I first read the power title, I thought Slipstreaming was going to pull another figure along with Kid Flash, not the other way around.
In terms of him getting sucked along as opposed to another figure, is the title what's tripping you guys up here? The theme of him being the tag along rather than others tagging along with him is definitely something I want to keep in play. My alternate title was "Speed Drafting" but I didn't like how that sounded. I'm open to other title suggestions if you think a title change here would help.

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The other Superspeed special powers require the figure not to use its SA in order to get the extra 4 move. Since Kid Flash doesn't have a SA to not use, it really isn't the same power.
Yeah, that was a quandary. I guess there are three ways to go here ...

1) Treat it like one of those Counter Strike grey areas where a slight wording change is "OK" with it still being the same power.
2) Do something else to get essentially that wording in (no normal attack?)
3) Put a special attack on him (not particularly in favor of this one, because then it's really hard to keep his design different from Barry Allen's).

In a pitch, I suppose I could boost his defense to like 6 and drop Speed Dodge and get in a simple special attack (any ideas?). I couldn't think of any original feeling special attacks for him, which is one reason I went with Slipstreaming instead. Also, I wanted to keep his cost down.

Superspeed is, though, non-negotiable. He has to have it.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I support going with option 1 there.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

Not sure about the Superspeed thing, but for Slipstreaming I'd just go with Unique Hero instead of figures and not have it activate on squads at all. He's a sidekick and so should work more closely with heroes.

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Re: The Book of Kid Flash (Wally West) - Design Phase

I agree that he shouldn't be moving several times on someone else's turn.

I think 1 is a fine option for Superspeed as others might come up and not have a special attack either, so rather than changing the power and name, keep it as is.

Looks like a nice design for the young speedster.

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