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The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

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This set of rules is necessary to properly enjoy C3G units with the same name.
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Subtitles Rules Description- When you look at a C3G card for the first time, you might notice a few differences between it and an official Marvel Heroscape card. One of those is the “subtitle” or the “title below the title.” These are, more or less, secret identities and they have a very specific game use.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: Do the Hasbro Superscape figures follow C3G's Secret Identity rules? For example, is Hasbro's Spider-Man's name considered to be simply "Spider-Man"?
    A: When using the Hasbro Superscape figures in C3G, the Hasbro figures are considered to have their thematic Secret Identities, as follows:
    • Abomination is Emil Blonsky
    • Captain America is Steve Rogers
    • Doctor Doom is Victor Von Doom
    • Incredible Hulk is Bruce Banner
    • Iron Man is Tony Stark
    • Red Skull is Johann Schmidt
    • Silver Surfer is Norrin Radd
    • Spider-Man is Peter Parker
    • Thanos has no Secret Identity
    • Venom is Eddie Brock
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Re: The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

SECRET IDENTITIES (SUB TITLES)
When you look at a C3G card for the first time, you might notice a few differences between it and an official Marvel Heroscape card. One of those is the “subtitle” or the “title below the title.” These are, more or less, secret identities and they have a very specific game use.

In the official rules for Heroscape, you’re not allowed to have two Unique Heroes with the same name in your army at the same time. This rule prevents, for instance, a player from fielding both the 80-point Rise of the Valkyrie Raelin and the 120-point Swarm of the Marro Raelin simultaneously. This system works great as long as no two characters have the same name.

Enter the comic book universe! No sooner do you get to the Green Lantern Corps than you start to understand why this rule is problematic when it comes to Superheroes. What if you want Flash (Barry Allen) to fight alongside Flash (Wally West)? Well as long as both of them only have the names Flash or all your Green Lantern Corps members only have the name Green Lantern, you’re in trouble.

That’s why we introduced the character subtitles. These distinguish Batman as Bruce Wayne or as Dick Grayson, so that you can play both at once. Subtitles are considered an extension of the character name, so you’re never drafting just “Superman” into your army, you’re drafting “Superman (Kal-El)", or perhaps "Superman (Kal-L)".

So the C3G rule on subtitles is: If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and different subtitles, they are considered different units and can be in the same army at the same time. However, if the subtitle of one army card is the same as the subtitle of another Army Card or the same as the name of an Army Card without a subtitle, follow the official rule. The two cards cannot be in the same army at the same time. EXAMPLE: An army is not allowed to have one Spider-Man (Peter Parker) and one Peter Parker, but is allowed to have both a Spider-Man (Peter Parker) and a Spider-Man (Miles Morales).

If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and one has a subtitle but the other does not, the two cards may be drafted into the same army. EXAMPLE: Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) may be drafted into the same army as one or more Uncommon Star Sapphires, because the Uncommon Star Sapphires do not have a subtitle.

If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and no subtitles, follow the official rule. The two cards cannot be in the same army at the same time. EXAMPLE: Each army is allowed to have only one Annihilus, because he is a Unique Hero and he does not have a subtitle.

If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and different subtitles, they are considered different units and can be in the same army at the same time. EXAMPLE: Each army is allowed to have one Black Widow (Yelena Belova) and one Black Widow (Natalia Romanova) because their subtitles are different from one another.

Hopefully this will not only pepper a bit more theme into your games but also keep your army options as open and exciting as they should be in the world of SuperHeroscape!

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PDF added to OP.

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Looks Great.
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Re: The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

I understand the rule and recognize it's uses.

There is conflict however. Not with C3G standalone - but, C3G is massively popular and clarification is perhaps justified. This is difficult for me to word. Hopefully I won't butcher it.
The area where Secret Identities are listed is the same area where Group Affiliations are listed officially.
I'd like for them both to exist somehow.

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Re: The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

C3G doesn't use team/general affiliations, so it doesn't matter.
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Re: The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

Nor did the official Marvel releases, for that matter.
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Re: The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

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C3G doesn't use team/general affiliations, so it doesn't matter.
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Nor did the official Marvel releases, for that matter.


A lot of the other Superhero customs use them, though. Which is probably where your confusion stems from.
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Does C3G follow the rule of can't be in the same army even if they are now currently dead.

e.g. Army 1 has Poison Ivy and Superman (I). Army 2 has Superman (I). Army 2 kills Army 1's Superman and then Poison Ivy rolls a 17 on her Seduction for Army 2's Superman. Does Army 1 get Superman or not? Just curious as this could come up in a game I am playing in the near future.

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Re: The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

Well, if it follows Classic Scape ruling, the answer is no.
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You are correct.

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Re: The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

FAQ from the FAQ thread:

Q: Do the Hasbro Superscape figures follow C3G's Secret Identity rules? For example, is Hasbro's Spider-Man's name considered to be simply "Spider-Man"?

A: When using the Hasbro Superscape figures in C3G, the Hasbro figures are considered to have their thematic Secret Identities, as follows:
  • Abomination is considered to have a Secret Identity of Emil Blonsky
  • Captain America's Secret Identity is Steve Rogers
  • Doctor Doom's is Victor Von Doom
  • Incredible Hulk is Bruce Banner
  • Iron Man is Tony Stark
  • Red Skull is Johann Schmidt
  • Silver Surfer is Norrin Radd
  • Spider-Man is Peter Parker
  • Thanos has no Secret Identity
  • Venom is Eddie Brock


Also, the rules here are slightly out of date. We've already got that "later" version of Batman with Dick Grayson behind the cowl that they're talking about.

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