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The Book of Black Widow

The Book of Black Widow

C3G MARVEL WAVE 11
THE AVENGER INITIATIVE






The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Ultimates set.
Its model number and name are #025-027 / Black Widow.

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Ultimates set.
Its model number and name are #209 / Natasha Romanoff.
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Character Bio - “[Natalia] was born in Stalingrad (now Volgograd), Russia. The first and best-known Black Widow is a Soviet agent trained as a spy, martial artist, and sniper, and outfitted with an arsenal of high-tech weaponry, including a pair of wrist-mounted energy weapons dubbed her "Widow's Bite" [….]

“Romanova grows up to serve as a femme fatale who attempts to seduce American defense contractor Tony Stark and inevitably confronts his superhero alter ego, Iron Man. On her first mission in the United States, she and her partner Boris Turgenov are sent to America to assassinate Prof. Anton Vanko. The pair battle Iron Man, and Turgenev steals and wears the Crimson Dynamo suit. Vanko sacrifices himself to save Iron Man, killing Turgenev in the process, using an unstable experimental laser light pistol. Romanova later meets the criminal archer Hawkeye and sets him against Iron Man, and later helped Hawkeye battle Iron Man.

“Romanova later attempts to defect from the Soviet Union, but is wounded by a KGB agent. The KGB brainwashes her, and with the Swordsman and the first Power Man, she battles the Avengers, a superhero team she joins as a costumed heroine herself when she eventually does successfully defect.”(Wikipedia, 2012).
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  • Q: What happens when Black Widow uses Widow's Bite on a figure that has a defensive power that will limit the amount of wounds that figure would receive, such as Magical Defense?
  • A: The limit in the wounds will only apply to the result from the dice rolled. Widow's Bite is a bonus wound that may apply after wounds from dice rolling have been reduced. If Black Widow is able to do at least 1 wound to the target, then that figure will also take an additional wound from Widow's Bite.
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Re: The Book of Black Widow

NAME = BLACK WIDOW
SECRET IDENTITY = NATALIA ROMANOVA

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = AGENT
PERSONALITY = DECEPTIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 7
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 170


ESPIONAGE
If you win initiative, before revealing your first Order Marker, you may immediately move Black Widow up to 5 spaces. When moving with Espionage, Black Widow can move through all figures and is never attacked when leaving an engagement.

WIDOW'S BITE
When Black Widow attacks a non-adjacent figure within 3 clear sight spaces and inflicts one or more wounds, you may add one additional wound. Destructible objects are not affected by Widow's Bite.

CLOSE COMBAT EXPERT
When attacking an opponent's adjacent figure with a normal attack, add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled. When defending against a normal attack from an adjacent figure, add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.

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Re: The Book of Black Widow

Cool nice start. I remember you telling me about the Espionage ability. This looks like it change a bit, but still looks cool. One thing I'd suggest is ditching the Markers aspect of Poison Darts. If you want to limit it, make it a special attack that can be used once per round like Punisher's Rocket.

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Re: The Book of Black Widow

I think the marker aspect is really important here because it makes you commit before attacking. If it's a Special Attack, you don't lose anything by trying. I know Griff likes it with the marker. (He really helped me get to this point)

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Re: The Book of Black Widow

I'm not crazy about the Marker aspect, mostly because I think of her as a character that doesn't need them. However, what you have is pretty well written and works well mechanically. Its a good design!

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Re: The Book of Black Widow

I like the design, but I too cannot see the point to the markers, thematically or mechanically. Why not just use poison weapons from the Drow?
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Re: The Book of Black Widow

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I'm not crazy about the Marker aspect, mostly because I think of her as a character that doesn't need them.
I see your point here, but the markers add so much strategy to this power. It just wouldn't be worth having on the card without markers IMO.

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Re: The Book of Black Widow

What if she had a power that allowed her to continue poisoning (wounding) figures if she was able to hit them until the end of the round? Like this:

Poison Dart Special Attack
Range 4. Attack 2.
When Black Widow uses Poison Dart Special Attack, she may attack one additional time. If Black Widow wounds a figure with Poison Dart Special Attack and does not destroy that figure, that figure will take one unavoidable wound each time you reveal an Order Marker for the rest of the round.

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Re: The Book of Black Widow

Another point, as it's written Poison Darts works with Close Combat Expert which seems odd thematically. Poison Darts should represent her using her gun (non-adjacent attack) and not using her Kung Fu moves to whoop someone's butt.

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Another point, as it's written Poison Darts works with Close Combat Expert which seems odd thematically. Poison Darts should represent her using her gun (non-adjacent attack) and not using her Kung Fu moves to whoop someone's butt.
That's not off thematically to me. She often shoots off her poison darts from her wrist launcher in close combat. If she is grappling with someone and shoots a dart, I highly doubt she'll miss.

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Re: The Book of Black Widow

I do remember discussing and agreeing that her dart markers is a good way to represent her limited supply and her consistent use of hands, feet, and guns as opposed to the actual darts in her bracelets.

Since people are not liking the markers with her normal attack, how about making a special attack with 3 poison dart markers? Sometimes, you have to know when you are out numbered here and just adapt to it.

POISON WRIST DARTS
SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 3. Attack 1.
Targeted figures cannot roll any defense dice against this special attack. If you roll a skull, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 14 or higher, the targeted figure receives one additional wound. You may only use this Special Attack if Black Widow used Espionage this round.
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POISON WRIST DARTS
SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 3. Attack 1.
Targeted figures cannot roll any defense dice against this special attack. If you roll a skull, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 14 or higher, the targeted figure receives one additional wound. You may only use this Special Attack if Black Widow used Espionage this round.
I'd be happier with this, although I don't like the "...If you roll a skull..." part it almost sounds like you are saying instead of wounding them. Maybe "...If Black Widow inflicts a wound with Poison Wrist Darts Special Attack,..." I know it is wordier but the other way sounds strange.

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