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The Book of Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)

The Book of Captain Marvel
(Billy Batson)

C3G DC WAVE 7
THE PURSUIT OF JUSTICE




Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Origin set.
Its model number and name are #079-081 / Shazam!.
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Character Bio - Billy Batson, an orphaned and homeless newspaper boy, follows at the behest of a mysterious cloaked stranger into the very subways he sleeps for warmth. The stranger takes Billy to the wizard SHAZAM. The wizard entrust Billy with the task of battling the "Seven Deadly Enemies of Man": pride, envy, greed, hatred, selfishness, laziness and injustice. To become the "world's mightiest mortal" and call upon the power of Captain Marvel, Billy only need say the wizards name SHAZAM!
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: Can Captain Marvel use his special powers of Wisdom of Solomon and Stamina of Atlas if he is not on the battlefield because he was switched with Billy Batson?
    A: Yes, as long as Captain Marvel has not been destroyed then his card is still in play and his powers may be used.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:
  • As a Billy Batson figure that is not a Citizen, Captain Marvel may be drafted into an army with Billy Batson due to his Secret Identity special power and may be switched with Billy Batson due to his SHAZAM! special power. If Captain Marvel is drafted with Billy Batson and does not start the game on the battlefield, he gains these Off-the-Battlefield Synergies.
  • As a Human Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel may be negated by or take a turn with Captain Marvel's (Mary Batson) Shared Power of Shazam! special power.
  • As a Human, Captain Marvel has these Human Synergies.
  • As a Champion, Captain Marvel has these Champion Synergies.
Outgoing Synergy:
  • N/A
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

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  • Initial Playtest: Griffin
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

NAME = CAPTAIN MARVEL
SECRET IDENTITY = BILLY BATSON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION
PERSONALITY = RIGHTEOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 8
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = 360


WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker and before that opponent takes a turn, you may choose 1 unrevealed Order Marker on this card and place it on any other Army Card you control, or choose 1 unrevealed Order Marker on any other Army Card you control and place it on this card.

STAMINA OF ATLAS
If you win initiative and there is at least one Order Marker on this card, you may remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.

POWER OF ZEUS
When Captain Marvel is attacked by an opponent's figure that has the Magical Defense special power, the most wounds Captain Marvel can take for this attack is one.

COURAGE OF ACHILLES
If an opponent chooses Captain Marvel for any special power and rolls the 20-sided die, you may subtract 2 from the roll.

SUPER STRENGTH

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

Cool design! Here are some of my comments:

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WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker to or from this card from or to another Army Card you control.
I think this needs rewording, because it sounds a little awkward, but I like the idea behind it.

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STAMINA OF ATLAS
If you win initiative and there is at least one Order Marker on this card you may remove 1 Wound Marker.
Is this supposed to remove a wound marker from this card, or any card you control?

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ZEUS AND ACHILLES
Special powers other than Special Attacks cannot be used against Captain Marvel.
This might prevent any beneficial synergy from other friendly figures. Was that your intent? It's confusing because you have the word "against" which might imply attacks only, but not necessarily. Do you instead mean that he can't be "wounded or destroyed due to any special power, except for special attacks"?
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

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Cool design! Here are some of my comments:

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WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker to or from this card from or to another Army Card you control.
I think this needs rewording, because it sounds a little awkward, but I like the idea behind it.

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STAMINA OF ATLAS
If you win initiative and there is at least one Order Marker on this card you may remove 1 Wound Marker.
Is this supposed to remove a wound marker from this card, or any card you control?

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ZEUS AND ACHILLES
Special powers other than Special Attacks cannot be used against Captain Marvel.
This might prevent any beneficial synergy from other friendly figures. Was that your intent? It's confusing because you have the word "against" which might imply attacks only, but not necessarily. Do you instead mean that he can't be "wounded or destroyed due to any special power, except for special attacks"?
Those were exactly the things I was thinking when I saw the PM last night, however, this is a great direction and concept.

I hope at some point, we can create a card for just Billy Batson like we were talking about last night, where he doesn't start on the battlefield but if Captain Marvel is destroyed, you roll the 20-sided die and if you hit the right number, Captain Marvel heals all wounds and is removed and replaced by Billy. Then Billy can have a power called SHAZAM where he is removed and replaced by Captain Marvel.


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ZEUS AND ACHILLES
Captain Marvel cannot be affected by special powers, except special attacks, that inflict wounds or would destroy him.
Probably not the best we can do, but hopefully that takes it in a direction that is closer to what we need.
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

Yeah, I had the same exact thoughts on the powers as Griff and GO. I like the overall direction, but some word tweaking is needed ... hmm ...

ZEUS AND ACHILLES
Captain Marvel can only be destroyed or receive wounds from normal or special attacks.

?

Of course that'd also, unintentionally, grant him disengage, so probably not ...

ZEUS AND ACHILLES
If an opponent's figure inflicts one or more wounds on Captain Marvel with a special power other than an attack, Captain Marvel may ignore those wounds.

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

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NAME = CAPTAIN MARVEL

SECRET IDENTITY = BILL BATSON


SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = PROTECTOR (I did originally have Champion)
PERSONALITY = INNOCENT (maybe Righteous)

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5
This all looks good to me.
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LIFE = 8

MOVE = 8
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 8

POINTS = 420
Actually Supes has Move 7, Attack 7, and Defense 7, with 7 Life. I would like to see his stats match that because other than Marvel being Magic they are meant to be evenly matched. Yes, Supes has Kryptonian Defense, but he can't heal.
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WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker to or from this card from or to another Army Card you control.
Is this meant to be once a round or every time an opponent reveals an OM? How about "After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may choose one of your own unrevealed Order Markers remove it from where it is placed and place it on a different card. The Order Marker chosen must either be removed from this card or placed on this card when using Wisdom of Solomon." If it meant to be once per round, we can throw "Once per round..." in front of that.
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STAMINA OF ATLAS
If you win initiative and there is at least one Order Marker on this card you may remove 1 Wound Marker.
I really like this sorta healing/stamina power.
Quote:

ZEUS AND ACHILLES
Special powers other than Special Attacks cannot be used against Captain Marvel.
Is this meant to be "avoids auto wounds and/or auto-destroys" or is it meant to bypass ALL other Special Powers? I think there is a big difference between those two answers.
Quote:
FLYING
SUPER STRENGTH

_________________________________________________________________


Character Bio - Billy Batson, an orphaned and homeless newspaper boy, follows at the behest of a mysterious cloaked stranger into the very subways he sleeps for warmth. The stranger takes Billy to the wizard SHAZAM. The wizard entrust Billy with the task of battling the "Seven Deadly Enemies of Man": pride, envy, greed, hatred, selfishness, laziness and injustice. To become the "world's mightiest mortal" and call upon the power of Captain Marvel, Billy only need say the wizards name SHAZAM!
This all looks fantastic! (Pun intended)

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

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Cool design! Here are some of my comments:

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WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker to or from this card from or to another Army Card you control.
I think this needs rewording, because it sounds a little awkward, but I like the idea behind it.
I agree but that's why I have you guys .
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STAMINA OF ATLAS
If you win initiative and there is at least one Order Marker on this card you may remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.
Is this supposed to remove a wound marker from this card, or any card you control?
Oops.
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ZEUS AND ACHILLES
Special powers other than Special Attacks cannot be used against Captain Marvel.
This might prevent any beneficial synergy from other friendly figures. Was that your intent? It's confusing because you have the word "against" which might imply attacks only, but not necessarily. Do you instead mean that he can't be "wounded or destroyed due to any special power, except for special attacks"?
Truthfully, I wasn't thinking about synergies offered at the time but now that I am I still wouldn't be worried. Captain Marvel even as part of a team always did things his own way & wasn't much of a team player. This power is really aimed at stopping any special that can be directed at him, like curses, mind control, auto destroy & the likes. I know the wording still needs to be worked on, but again, that's why I have you guys
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LIFE = 8

MOVE = 8
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 8

POINTS = 420
Actually Supes has Move 7, Attack 7, and Defense 7, with 7 Life. I would like to see his stats match that because other than Marvel being Magic they are meant to be evenly matched. Yes, Supes has Kryptonian Defense, but he can't heal.
Yeah you are probably right. I started with Supes stats then when going through the SHAZAM powers I added the extra's as I stated. So I will take them back down.
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WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker to or from this card from or to another Army Card you control.
Is this meant to be once a round or every time an opponent reveals an OM? How about "After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may choose one of your own unrevealed Order Markers remove it from where it is placed and place it on a different card. The Order Marker chosen must either be removed from this card or placed on this card when using Wisdom of Solomon." If it meant to be once per round, we can throw "Once per round..." in front of that.
No it's supposed to be each time. But the limiting fact is that OM can only be placed on or taken off Captain Marvel. This is him readjusting his strategy on the fly. So whilst the wording definitely needs work, yours doesn't cover it.
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STAMINA OF ATLAS
If you win initiative and there is at least one Order Marker on this card you may remove 1 Wound Marker.
I really like this sorta healing/stamina power.
Quote:

ZEUS AND ACHILLES
Special powers other than Special Attacks cannot be used against Captain Marvel.
Is this meant to be "avoids auto wounds and/or auto-destroys" or is it meant to bypass ALL other Special Powers? I think there is a big difference between those two answers. [/quote]
As above.
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SUPER STRENGTH

_________________________________________________________________


Character Bio - Billy Batson, an orphaned and homeless newspaper boy, follows at the behest of a mysterious cloaked stranger into the very subways he sleeps for warmth. The stranger takes Billy to the wizard SHAZAM. The wizard entrust Billy with the task of battling the "Seven Deadly Enemies of Man": pride, envy, greed, hatred, selfishness, laziness and injustice. To become the "world's mightiest mortal" and call upon the power of Captain Marvel, Billy only need say the wizards name SHAZAM!
This all looks fantastic! (Pun intended)
Cheers
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

Working on one power at a time:

WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker to or from this card from or to another Army Card you control.

Quote:
WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals any Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker either from this card to another Army Card you control, or from another Army Card you control to this card.
That spells it out more clearly but makes it a little longer.

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

I am not sure why this doesn't work. As you said it is meant to be every turn and thats what I did here as well.

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I am not sure why this doesn't work. As you said it is meant to be every turn and thats what I did here as well.

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Wisdom of Solomon
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may choose one of your own unrevealed Order Markers remove it from where it is placed and place it on a different card. The Order Marker chosen must either be removed from this card or placed on this card when using Wisdom of Solomon.
Because that doesn't focus on Captain Marvel. What I have does & still says it in less words .
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

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Working on one power at a time:

WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker to or from this card from or to another Army Card you control.

Quote:
WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals any Order Marker, you may move 1 unrevealed Order Marker either from this card to another Army Card you control, or from another Army Card you control to this card.
That spells it out more clearly but makes it a little longer.

Cheers
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel - Design Phase

WISDOM OF SOLOMON
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker, you may choose one unrevealed Order Marker on any Army Card you control and place it on any other Army Card you control. The chosen Order Marker must either be removed from this card or placed on this card.

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