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The Book of Dum Dum Dugan

The Book of Dum Dum Dugan

C3G MARVEL WAVE 11
THE AVENGER INITIATIVE





The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Secret Invasion set. Its model number and name are #032a - 032b / Dum Dum Dugan.

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Character Bio - Dum Dum Dugan served with Nick Fury's "Howling Commandos" during WWII. He later became Fury's second in command at S.H.I.E.L.D. and one of his closest friends. (ComicVine, 2012)
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  • Other Agents you control may allow Dum Dum Dugan to attack 1 additional time due to his Commando Backup special power. Current Agents.
  • As an Agent, Dum Dum Dugan may be activated by Cecil Stedman's Government Funded Heroes special power and moved by his Global Defense Agency special power.
  • As an Agent, Dum Dum Dugan can be placed on the battlefield by Nick Fury's Helicarrier Drop Team special power and can be activated by Nick Fury's Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. special power.
  • As a Unique Human Hero, Dum Dum Dugan may be healed by Alfred Pennyworth's Field Medic special power.
  • As a Unique Human Hero, Dum Dum Dugan may be chosen for Arnim Zola's Cloning 16 special power.
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  • Dum Dum Dugan may allow Agents you control to avoid leaving engagement attacks with his Diversion special power. Current Agents.
  • As a Human, Dum Dum Dugan allows adjacent friendly Civilians to roll an additional attack and defense die due to their Strength in Numbers special power.
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NAME = DUM DUM DUGAN
SECRET IDENTITY = TIMOTHY DUGAN

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = AGENT
PERSONALITY = LOYAL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 90


MARKSMANSHIP
After moving and before attacking, you may subtract any number of Dum Dum Dugan's attack dice from your roll, to a minimum of 1 attack die, and add that number to Dum Dum Dugan's Range number for this turn.

COMMANDO BACKUP
If Dum Dum Dugan attacks a figure engaged with any other Agent you control, he may attack one additional time.

DIVERSION
Agents you control do not take leaving engagement attacks from opponents' figures that are within 5 clear sight spaces of Dum Dum Dugan.

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Re: The Book of Dum Dum Dugan - design phase

I like the powers and the stats! My only real complaint is the name for Marksmanship. I think of "marksmanship" as being more accurate, and therefore more likely to hit the target. Using this ability makes it less likely to hit the target, but increases the range. I like the power, I just think it might need a different name.
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Re: The Book of Dum Dum Dugan - design phase

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MARKSMANSHIP: After moving and before attacking, you may subtract 1 from Dum Dum Dugan's Attack to add 2 to his Range. You may do this any number of times.
COMMANDO BACKUP: Dum Dum Dugan may add 1 to his Move if he is unengaged prior to moving and can end his movement adjacent to a figure engaged with an Agent you control. Dum Dum Dugan adds 1 to his Attack when attacking an adjacent figure engaged with another Agent you control.



Nice ideas Necro. I made some suggested changes below (though the wording may need help). I figured that +2 to his range can get kind of crazy if he has extreme height and adjacent to Cap and end up with an attack of 4 from range 12.


I also felt that if Dum Dum wanted to risk leaving engagement for Commando Backup move bonus, he should be able to take that risk to help his fellow Agent (being Loyal and all ).


Anyway, cool concept and I'm glad to see him in design phase.



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MARKSMANSHIP: After moving and before attacking, you may reduce Dum Dum Dugan's Attack to a minimum of 1. For each number reduced from Dum Dum Dugan's Attack when using Marksmanship, you may add 1 to his Range.


COMMANDO BACKUP: You may add 1 to Dum Dum Dugan's Move if he can end his movement adjacent to a figure engaged with an another Agent you control. Add 1 to Dum Dum Dugan's Attack anytime he attacks an adjacent figure engaged with another Agent you control.

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I like the powers and the stats! My only real complaint is the name for Marksmanship. I think of "marksmanship" as being more accurate, and therefore more likely to hit the target. Using this ability makes it less likely to hit the target, but increases the range. I like the power, I just think it might need a different name.
It's been argued previously that longer range signifies better marksmanship though.

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I like the powers and the stats! My only real complaint is the name for Marksmanship. I think of "marksmanship" as being more accurate, and therefore more likely to hit the target. Using this ability makes it less likely to hit the target, but increases the range. I like the power, I just think it might need a different name.
It's been argued previously that longer range signifies better marksmanship though.

It could certainly have a different name if anyone thinks of one, but yes it has been said that "Range" is really "effective range," so a marksman would be able to extend that.

Hahma, you're absolutely right about him leaving engagement. I'm not sure when I put that in there, but it needs to come out.

As far as throwing 4 dice at 12 Range in extreme circumstances...I really don't see that as a problem in C3G'scape. Most characters can take that hit and/or still close with him quickly. Under more normal circumstances (just +1 Attack from height or whatever) he can throw 3 dice at 10 Range. Not a big attack by any means.

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Re: The Book of Dum Dum Dugan - design phase

I'm cool with the name for Marksmanship. It's a nice simple name that can be carried to other cards like Deadshot in the future and fit very well there as well.
I don't have a problem with the power level of 12 Range and 4 dice in extreme circumstance ... but I kind of don't like the theme of this guy so easily outranging our highest ranged guys. Dum Dum has marksmanship abilities, but should he really be our best ranged guy in C3G? Should he be the best sniper around? I'll admit to having limited knowledge of the character, but that doesn't seem right to me ...
Any chance I can sell you on upping his attack to 5 and giving him melee range, then keeping the powers the same? This would give him potential range of 3, 5, 7, or 9, depending on how much he wanted to lower his attack. This would keep his range at its extreme in the single digits, though (still equal to a guy like Syvarris), which fits the theme of the character a bit better for me.
If this were someone like Deadshot, known as a sniper above all else, maxing at 12 range would fit better for me. But for Dum Dum? Not quite feeling that long of a range.

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Re: The Book of Dum Dum Dugan - design phase

I was actually just thinking that, Bats. His range should not go that high because it's (potentially) more than some of the best ranged characters. I'd rather he start with a ranged attack, though, so I'll change it to Hahma's suggested -1A/+1R. On height then, he'll max out at 1 die at 10 Range.

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Re: The Book of Dum Dum Dugan - design phase

But if he has melee range on his card, he's still essentially starting out with a range 5, attack 3 attack ...

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This looks good Necro. Glad to see you designing something again.

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Re: The Book of Dum Dum Dugan - design phase

I don't have too much left to LD, so I've gotta stretch it out and stick around to bug you guys as long as I can.

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