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Old July 25th, 2008, 05:10 PM
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450 point army

The idea of this thread is to post your 450 point competitive armies then get constructive criticism on how to make them better. Here, I'll go first.

Krug=120
Cryprein=150
Minons Of Utgar 1x=110
Marro Warriors=50
Marcu=20
Total=450

Here's another one

Zelrig=185
Yari 3x=120
Harb 2x=120
Total=425

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Old July 25th, 2008, 05:50 PM
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Re: 450 point army

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The idea of this thread is to post your 450 point competitive armies then get constructive criticism on how to make them better. Here, I'll go first.

Krug=120
Cryprein=150
Minons Of Utgar 1x=110
Marro Warriors=50
Marcu=20
Total=450

Here's another one

Zelrig=185
Yari 3x=120
Harb 2x=120
Total=425
Well, I could be wrong, but I don't see very much synergy between the units you've chosen. This may be intentional, but I don't think it's very "competative".

No insult, just something to think about.

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Old July 25th, 2008, 05:54 PM
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Re: 450 point army

450 Point competitive armies, eh?

While 450 is only 50 points shy of the average 500 point limit for most competitive tournament armies, it makes a large difference. Not only is the odd tenth digit a slight annoyance, but it leaves little room for add-ons once the core of your army is established.

As for your first army, I think Krug, Cyprien, and Minions of Utgar are all great units, but using Krug without Arrow Gruts, Cyprien without Sonya, and only one squad of the Minions really doesn't allow them to play to their fullest potential.

Here's an interesting army that incorperates both Cyprien and Krug, while being balanced and synergetic:

Vampires and Gruts
Cyprien - 150
Sonya - 195
Krug - 315
Arrow Gruts x2 - 395
Swog Riders x2 - 445

Cyprien is a great squad killer, as well as a potential hero killer if the dice are in your favor. Krug himself is an absolute beast when it comes to destroying Heroes, and your Gruts can take down your opponents weak squad figures while Krug deals a majority of damage to your opponent's heavy hitters.

Here's a very offensively based 450 point army that uses the Minions of Utgar:

Attack > Defense
Minions of Utgar x3 - 330
Marro Stingers x2 - 450

Two units - it's that simple! Strong melee attackers with strong ranged support.

As for your second army, I doubt the Ashigaru would be able to do much without the support of Kato Katsuro, and trying to pull off a strong Kato army within a 450 point limit would be far too difficult. Zelrig is great for picking off swarm armies, though he would need a lot of support from strong units in case he goes down early.

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Zelrig - 185
10th Regiment x3 - 410
Deathreavers - 450

Suicide rush with Zelrig to take out as many of your opponent's squad figures as you can. After that, send out your deathreavers to tie up your opponents figures and pick off your enemies from range with the 10th.

Here are a few more 450 point competitive armies:

Vampires and Marro
Cyprien/Sonya - 195
Marro Stingers x4 - 435
Isamu - 445

Vydar Power
Krav Maga - 100
Major Q9 - 280
Nakita Agents - 400
Marro Warriors - 450

Arrow Gruts and Beasts
Arrow Gruts x3 - 120
Krug - 240
Mimring - 390
Swog Riders x2 - 440
Isamu 450

Lots of 4th Mass (Eww)
4th Massachusetts x4 - 280
Sgt. Drake 2.0 - 450

Soldiers
10th Regiment x3 - 225
Roman Legos x2 - 325
Marcus - 425
Marcu - 445

Glads/Blasts
Glads x3 / Blasts x2 - 360
Raelin - 440
Isamu - 450

Uniques United
Krav Maga - 100
Kaemon Awa - 220
Raelin - 300
Syvarris - 400
Marro Warriors - 450

I'm sure I could come up with more, but those are just a few to think about.
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Re: 450 point army

Don't we already have one of these?
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Re: 450 point army

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Don't we already have one of these?
Actually, we don't.

We have:
-600 Point Competitive Armies
-520 Point Competitive Armies
-520 Point General Specific Competitive Armies
-500 Point Competitive Armies
-500 Melee-Only Competitive Armies
-500 Point Mixed Classic/Marvel Competitive Armies
-440 Point Competitive Armies
-400 Point Competitive Armies

No 450 Point Competitive Army Thread.
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I just looked myself..amazing...we do have a few that discuss 450 builds based off of GenCon events but nothing general...ok carry on!!!

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I just looked myself..amazing...we do have a few that discuss 450 builds based off of GenCon events but nothing general...ok carry on!!!

Gave OP his first green card for starting it up
Oh, and no +rep to me for helping him with his armies, suggesting several, and then compiling a long list of competitive army threads to show that we don't have a 450 point competitive army thread?

I see how it is, Onacara. I'll keep this in mind when/if we face off at the Sept. 6th tournament in Jersey.
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Re: 450 point army

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I just looked myself..amazing...we do have a few that discuss 450 builds based off of GenCon events but nothing general...ok carry on!!!

Gave OP his first green card for starting it up
Oh, and no +rep to me for helping him with his armies, suggesting several, and then compiling a long list of competitive army threads to show that we don't have a 450 point competitive army thread?

I see how it is, Onacara. I'll keep this in mind when/if we face off at the Sept. 6th tournament in Jersey.
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Re: 450 point army

Pshh... I don't need your pity rep!

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Old July 25th, 2008, 07:54 PM
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Re: 450 point army

Guys thanks for the help. Ill try some of these armies.

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Re: 450 point army

Runa 120
Minions x2 220
Airborne Elite 110

Typical Runa/Minions army. Fun to play, though.

Minions x2 220
Krug 120
Arrow Gruts x2 80
Swog 25

I play this one a lot and find it tons of fun.

Sacred Band x2 100
Parmenio 90
Valguard 110
Tagawa Samurai Archers x2 110
Marcu 20

Here's a disciplined army using Parmenio to discipline Valguard (Bad Valguard! Bad!) Send out Marcu first thing to cause havoc and get him killed for the Band's defense bonus.

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Re: 450 point army

Well met!

This Sunday is the second in the mixed marvel tournament series in Mineola, NY. See my blog entry on the kickoff. This week's point total is 450. Given my pool, the best choice, hands down is Cap/Krav/Raelin/Marro Warriors. For variety's sake, I'd like to play Tor-kul-Na, but, at 450 points, from my pool, with my Deathreavers and WoA not yet in hand, I am not as certain about what to field. Suggestions?

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