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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Scarecrow II
Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Scarecrow II (170 Points), Amanda Waller, Rick Flag Jr, Scarlet Spiders, Mr Freeze II, Deadshot (1000 Points) vs Fantastic Four (1000 points)
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Damage:
Abilities: 1st marker placed, reduced stats once, 2nd maker placed 3 (reduced to 1) rolled, costing the Fantastic four the turn. Final marker helps reduce defense enough to take out Reed.
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Scarecrow II (170 Points), Amanda Waller, Rick Flag Jr, Scarlet Spiders, Mr Freeze II, Deadshot, Vulture, Skrull Infiltrator (1100 Points) vs Professor Xavier, Wolverine, Deadpool, Quicksilver, Armor (1100 points)
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Damage:
Abilities: 1st marker on Wolverine, almost immediately removed. 2nd marker also removed immediately. 3rd reduced defense on 2 rolls, then removed.
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Hes fun, but definitely swingy. When your opponent is rolling badly, he can make your momentum rocket forward (see the first game), but if theyre rolling well, he can be borderline useless (see second game). Hes a great touch to help the Squad take down big guns, and I do love how he feels like Scarecrow in his primary debuffing focus. 170 feels fine to me, as like I said, he can get real variance in his contribution depending on luck.
GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Thumbs up from me here, hes a ton of fun. Its a bit of a downer if your opponent is rolling high on fear rolls, which will hurt more if hes not playing with some turn efficiency folks. When injecting isnt all your doing in a turn, he feels more fun and more worth it.
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Old October 10th, 2019, 01:43 PM
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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

Thanks for the tests!
@Soundwarp SG-1 did you have any plans or desires to see some additional testing here, or do you feel he’s sufficient as-is?

After changes, he’s gone:
@ 165
Medium loss.

@ 170
Big win.
Big loss.

@ 175
Very close loss.

@ 180
Medium loss.

He’s naturally swingy depending on opponent’s d20 rolls and such. Do we feel comfortable moving forward, and if so, at what cost?
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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

Averages to about 170, so that's probably where I'd shoot for, but I wouldn't balk at 175 either.
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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

I was going to get some tests up late tonight, but if you want to move on it’s fine with me. Don’t want to hold anything up.


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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

I like 175 but I like 5 point endings for bad guys in general.

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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

You guys think 175 even tho he lost all but 1 game?
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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

Got my tests up if y'all want them. Hopefully they're of some use, don't know if I really used him to his true potential, but I thought he was pretty fun.

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Scarecrow II@170 points

Army Test 1
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Small Scare: Scarecrow (170), Ms. Marvel (350), Noob Saibot (230), Shadow Wraith (10)- 760 total vs Demonic Dolls: Zatanna (220), N'Astirh (320), Meggan (205), Skrull Infiltrator x1 (10)- 755 total
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Army Test 2
Map: Island Plane Crash (No E-Glyph)
Units: Fear and Lasers in the Iceberg Lounge: Scarecrow II (170), Penguin II (140), Whirlwind (190), Living Laser (190), The Hood (180) - 870 total vs X-tra Sauce: Cyclops (II) (240), Black King (220), Storm (220), Dazzler (100), Angel (Warren) (90) - 870 total
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Overall: He seems fine to me. The markers can theoretically be devastating with the right D-20 rolls and the right targets, but they can also be kinda useless with the wrong rolls and it can be hard even getting them on the right people in the first place.


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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

Thanks for the tests!

That’s a loss at 170, and win at 165. I’d prefer we settle at either 165 or 170. Feel free to state your preferences and I’ll call for a vote tomorrow.
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Thats a loss at 170, and win at 165. Id prefer we settle at either 165 or 170. Feel free to state your preferences and Ill call for a vote tomorrow.
Looks like they were both played at 170
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Re: The Book of Scarecrow (II) (Public Playtest)

Yeah, that's what I'm reading too. Seems like he'd ultimately be fine at 165-175, so probably makes sense to split the difference and go 170, where he's looked most balanced.

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Thats a loss at 170, and win at 165. Id prefer we settle at either 165 or 170. Feel free to state your preferences and Ill call for a vote tomorrow.
Looks like they were both played at 170
The totals for the first game were 760 vs. 755. So Scarecrow would be played at 5 points lower than 170, to match the total of the other team.
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