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Old June 17th, 2020, 03:49 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

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@Scytale sorry for the ping, but you're our rules team contact. Is there a way we can get a ruling, or?
This ruling is outside of VC. You need a general ruling on Spirit powers.
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Old June 17th, 2020, 03:56 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

Right, that's what we're asking for. Would that be possible?
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Old June 17th, 2020, 04:00 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

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Right, that's what we're asking for. Would that be possible?
Not from me; I'm not any official word. Best to bring it up in one of the Viking's Books and see what kind of response you get.
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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

So it sounds like the general leaning is toward the viking's spirit (figure) needing to be present in order to provide the bonus (or debuff, in the case of the-hero-formerly-known-as-Atrixus). That honestly sounds like the better way to handle it to me, anyway. So let's have a quick vote, then get back to making sure we're playtesting the right wording/ruling.

Do you think (my vote in red as usual):
  • Figures are required for Spirit powers to have an effect
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  • Once a Spirit power has been activated, it's in effect no matter where the figure ends up


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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

I think the former makes more thematic sense.

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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

There hasn't been much feedback in the Viking books since I brought up the question, but the consensus seems to be that the figure should be present. I think that the wording of all of the spirit powers, specifically referring to "____'s Spirit" instead of the power name as the source of the boost, gives us some leeway here. Either way, the official classic rules team isn't exactly around anymore, and we need to make a decision to move forward.

I think that a figure's Spirit should refer to the figure on the card, so the power won't work if the figure is removed. It makes more thematic sense, and it seems to be more intuitive than the alternative (judging from what little public response we've received).
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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

Figure on the card. I’m on mobile so just imagine it on red.
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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

I’m cool with Spirits requiring the figure to be in effect.

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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

Hard not to call that a consensus. Spirit figures are required to bestow the spirit power bonus. Updated the OP wording so we can move forward.


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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

So are we voting to move to testing now or do we need an editing checklist still? It has been a while so I'm not sure where we are.

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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

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So are we voting to move to testing now or do we need an editing checklist still? It has been a while so I'm not sure where we are.
I think I need to redo the Checklist.
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Re: [Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Editing

Excellent. I'm glad we could come to an understanding with this.
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