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Old August 20th, 2008, 07:21 PM
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540 Point NHSD Armies

"Tree Town Open 4" and "Hexes in Texas 4" are going with 540 armies this year. It's even been suggested (but not insisted) that other large tourneys do the same. Why? Well, partly for the sake of this thread!

Crunching some numbers over on Gary's site, I came up with something nasty:

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Warden 816 - 90
Zettian Guards - 90
Gurei-Oni - 100
3x Blastatrons - 180
1x Gladiatrons - 80
= 540
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

I'm afraid a few tourneys will see this one:
Stingers x6 - 360
Major Q9

Based on Spider's recent success with Glads, Blasts, & Raelin, we'll probably also see this one:
Gladiatrons x2 - 160
Blastatrons x2 - 120 (280)
Q9 - 180 (460)
Raelin - 80 (or an extra squad of Glads) (540)

I personally think I might want to run something like this (if I could somehow get my grubby little mitts on a Skahen ):
Wolves of Badru x3 - 240
Khosumet - 75 (315)
Agent Skahen - 120 (435)
Krav Maga Agents - 100 (535)
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

Gorillas
Nakitas
Krav
Skahen
Laglor

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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

Knights x 5 - 350
Alastair - 460
Raelin - 540

Mwahaha!!

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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

Nilfheim - 185
Major Q9 - 180
Marro Warriors - 50
Deathreavers x3 - 120

Total = 535

Major Q9 - 180
Krav Maga Agents - 100
Laglor - 110
Raelin - 80
Zetacron - 60
Isamu / Otonashi - 10

Total = 540

Nilfheim - 185
10th Regiment x3 - 225
Marro Warriors - 50
Raelin - 80

Total = 540

Sonlen - 160
Deathreavers x2 - 80
Marro Stingers x5 - 300

Total = 540

Runa - 120
Minions x2 - 220
Airborne Elite - 110
Zetacron - 60
Marcu Esenwein - 20
Isamu / Otonashi - 10

Total = 540

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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

The I fear rats!

Agent Skahen 120
Nakita Agents 120
Krav Maga Agents 100
Microcorp Agents 100
Agent Carr 100

just played this last night and it absolutely rocked! dropped the Major in 1 turn.
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Agent Skahen 120
Nakita Agents 120
Krav Maga Agents 100
Microcorp Agents 100
Agent Carr 100

just played this last night and it absolutely rocked! dropped the Major in 1 turn.
Ya, Skahen+Nakitas + anything is a pretty great combo.
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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

I look forward to seeing people try to copy Spiders Blast/Glad builds because I'm willing to bet that most people (myself included) could draft the exact same army and still not play competitively with it.

That army takes a lot of strategy and expertise and practice to run effectively. It's not the kind of thing you print off the night before and just assume it's going to win games. I think the term Spider used in his GenCon report was "finesse" and that's the perfect word for it.

For my part, I'm leaning towards a Marro build, but I haven't gotten anywhere close to deciding what.


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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

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I look forward to seeing people try to copy Spiders Blast/Glad builds because I'm willing to bet that most people (myself included) could draft the exact same army and still not play competitively with it.

That army takes a lot of strategy and expertise and practice to run effectively. It's not the kind of thing you print off the night before and just assume it's going to win games. I think the term Spider used in his GenCon report was "finesse" and that's the perfect word for it.

For my part, I'm leaning towards a Marro build, but I haven't gotten anywhere close to deciding what.
Yeah, I played a similar army (3x G's, 2x B's, Isamu, Raelin) in a Win-a-Wave and the Deathwalker Jumpstart, and I went 1-1 and 2-1 respectively, for a total of 3-2. Going 9-0 with any army is hard. If you think that playing Heroscape competitively is all about the army, you've never played it.

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(I've also played many matches with great, fun people who were using Q9. So using Q9 doesn't make you a tool. But being a tool sure seems to make you use Q9.)

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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

Shades x4 400
Ne-Gok-Sa 490
Me-Burq-Sa 540

Oh yes, I can see it now...bwahaha!

In all seriousness, though, I don't like the new point total. I mean, it makes it even more terribly hard to build a nice Grut Army, and it encourages more blandness like the 6x Stingers + Q9 mentioned earlier.

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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

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Shades x4 400
Ne-Gok-Sa 490
Me-Burq-Sa 540

Oh yes, I can see it now...bwahaha!

In all seriousness, though, I don't like the new point total. I mean, it makes it even more terribly hard to build a nice Grut Army, and it encourages more blandness like the 6x Stingers + Q9 mentioned earlier.
I think you'd see that no matter what the point total was unless you set up the format to specifically prohibit the use for those units.


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Re: 540 Point NHSD Armies

I have to say those 5x and 6x builds are also the least interesting or impressive to me. But there's a lot you can do with that extra 40 points that you couldn't do with 500, especially with the uniques.

Wk, I don't see any way to limit those squadscape builds other than specifically creating a rule against it and no one wants to do that.
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