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The Book of Elongated Man
The Book of Elongated Man C3G DC WAVE 33 BATMAN FOREVER Comic PDF Mini PDF The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Collateral Damage set. Its model number and name are #040 / Elongated Man or #042 / Elongated Man. Alternate art purple costume:
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_________________________________________________________________ Character Bio - As a growing boy fascinated with bodybuilders and contortionists, Randolph "Ralph" Dibny discovered a popular soda known as Gingold used to enhance flexibility. As his life advanced, Dibny studied chemistry and created a supreme version of Gingold that could give him extreme stretching abilities for long periods of time. Utilizing Gingold and his brilliant brain to become Elongated Man, Dibny quickly developed into one of the world's most skilled detectives, second only to Batman. Dibny also went on to form a strong friendship with The Flash and became one of the first superheroes to publicly release his identity and get married. _________________________________________________________________ -Rulings and Clarifications-
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Card Updates: 3 January 2021 - Kinetic Stretch wording update Like Superheroes and Comics?
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
NAME = ELONGATED MAN
SECRET IDENTITY = RANDOLPH DIBNY SPECIES = METAHUMAN UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO CLASS = INVESTIGATOR PERSONALITY = DEDICATED SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6 LIFE = 4 MOVE = 6 RANGE = 2 ATTACK = 3 DEFENSE = 7 POINTS = 160 SUPER SLEUTH After placing Order Markers and before rolling for initiative, you may reveal an “X” Order Marker on this card to choose an unrevealed Order Marker on an opponent’s card and view it. If it is an “X” Order Marker, you may immediately view all Order Markers on that opponent’s cards and when rolling for initiative this round, add 10 to your roll. If it is a numbered Order Marker, add that Order Marker's number to your initiative roll. RIDICULOUS REACH Whenever an unengaged enemy figure within 2 spaces of Elongated Man moves away from him or targets a figure other than him, you may roll an unblockable attack die against that figure. If you roll a skull, that figure cannot move away from Elongated Man and can only attack him this turn. KINETIC STRETCH Instead of his normal move, Elongated Man may move up to 4 spaces with Kinetic Stretch. When moving with Kinetic Stretch, Elongated Man has the Flying special power, but will not take any leaving engagement attacks. If Elongated Man moved at least 3 spaces with Kinetic Stretch, he may roll one additional die when attacking this turn. SUPER STRENGTH Like Superheroes and Comics?
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
Very interesting design. Stats are kind of wonky, which I dig. Super Sleuth seems really in-line with our other recent detective character, which I always like to see - mechanics that rhyme are great.
That being said, Ridiculous Reach seems like something that could get kind of funky... like, I can't think of any ways that it breaks the game, but messing with how engagement works seems like a red flag to me. Moreover, is he that much better at stretching than Plastic Man and Mr. Fantastic? JOHNNY139'S CLASSIC CUSTOM THREAD! | Visit now!
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
You may want to change the result of finding a numbered order marker to a static bonus, because as currently worded in a more than 2 player game, everybody else gains the benefit of knowing what the order marker is as they get to see what you add to your roll.
Ridiculous Reach is a cool power , but may need some work, as it could prove abusive if you find a way to lock down a Range 1 hero’s movement and engage that hero with Ralph from 2 spaces away. |
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
add that number from to your initiative roll.
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
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Let's check in with the CRB on how Ridiculous Reach would go. @dok @Soundwarp SG-1 @Dysole @weebaer Got it! Like Superheroes and Comics?
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
I think Ridiculous Reach is going to be a mess rules wise right now, especially since they're engaged with him.. but he isn't engaged with them by the current wording I guess? Very dangerous waters to sail in.
I'd word the power as basically replicating some/all the effects of engagement without getting into the messy grey area of 'considered engaged'. 'Enemy Figures within 2 clear sight spaces of Elongated Man cannot attack non-adjacent figures accept for Elongated Man. When a non-adjacent enemy Figure within 2 clear sight spaces of Elongated Man would move unto a space that is not within 2 clear sight spaces of Elongated Man, you may roll one unblockable attack die. If you roll a skull, that figure cannot move for the rest of this (player?) turn. Something like that, though it would probably need something to stop him from double dipping on an LEA and the reach unblockable. Maybe just make him unable to do normal LEAs? Super Sleuth feels a bit worrisome paired with Commander Rodgers and Joker, as he is a really cheap way to get a massive initiative boost and against some armies it will be very easy to find the X. I don't think he is going to come in as low as 135 with both a really good lockdown power and a really good initiative power, both are pretty high on the 'competitive checklist'. My Repaints and Mods: Updated 1-13 My Custom Cards: Updated 4-15 My Custom Superheroes: Updated 1-13 My figure images for online games: Alliance figures, Utgar figures My Etsy Store |
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
Trying to ape engagement effects without calling it engagement makes it incredibly more powerful as then it circumvents any disengage powers and muddles interactions with placement powers that specifically say the figure doesn’t take leaving engagement attacks.
A figure with range 1 could move closer to Elongated Man without leaving engagement and attack him that way. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
I'd like to understand what makes "considered to be engaged" messy.
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
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I consider it messy because I have no idea what the interactions with just the normal rules are supposed to be, let alone how it would work with all the other powers out there now and yet to be. My Repaints and Mods: Updated 1-13 My Custom Cards: Updated 4-15 My Custom Superheroes: Updated 1-13 My figure images for online games: Alliance figures, Utgar figures My Etsy Store |
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
No the original intent is as it’s written. I was clarifying for Margloth.
I think quozl and I would benefit from a specific example of odd interactions. Not that we don’t trust you, we just aren’t seeing it. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of Elongated Man (Breathing Period)
If two figures are engaged with one another, one figure can move around the other one without leaving engagement and attack from a different spot on the map. So I'm not sure what you are getting at here with Ares. A melee figure moves two spaces away from Elongated Man and is considered engaged with Elongated Man, he can then still move one space closer to Elongated Man and attack at range 1 without leaving engagement at all.
I'd say my question about engagement at range 2 is, does that mean a figure 2 spaces away from Elongated Man (but not adjacent to any figures at all) can not use a ranged attack on someone other than Elongated Man? I think I would limit the power to making LEA from two spaces away and avoid the issue of engagement's effect on ranged attacks. RIDICULOUS REACH When an enemy figure within 2 clear sight spaces of Elongated Man moves 3 spaces away from Elongated Man, Elongated Man may roll for a leaving engagement attack versus that figure. If Elongated Man rolls a skull against a figure leaving an engagement with him, that figure may not leave the engagement with Elongated Man this turn. |
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