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Old October 11th, 2014, 11:17 AM
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As for Soul Markers, their design predates Akumen's release. If necessary, I would not be opposed to changing the name (although it was unfortunately spot on).
@Ixe - Instead of adding a new marker to the mix, why not just put the destroyed figures on the card?
I'd rather not since that changes how the power interacts with other figures like the Viking Champions in ways that I do not intend. Any adjustment to Soul Markers will be a non-functional name change, but only if it's necessary. I can see it both going both ways since they are acquired in the same way and are only used differently. On one hand it's not a thematic stretch that different units can use the same resource differently, while on the other it's probably best to have consistency in what markers do for the sake of clarity.
I think it makes perfect sense to steal the Viking's Spirit (new name?) or soul, but that may be just me. What makes their souls so special? Anyway, meant to say it earlier, but I like them and hope they get the nod to be reviewed.
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Old October 11th, 2014, 04:26 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I like the design. I'm willing to review it, but I think I agree with superfrog that the markers should have a different name.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

It is plainly not canonic to recycle a theme-y marker name like that.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I agree with the others. Please change the name of the markers.

As for using the destroyed figures instead of markers, that just causes a lot of problems. There are a few powers in existence (like Viking spirits) that dictate where a figure places itself other than its own card; a power that captures figures it kills is in direct opposition to such powers. It's a one-way street that's already been paved. (Soon to be renamed) Soul Markers are an elegant way to avoid that.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I personally like the idea that a soul eater can counter a viking spirit by devouring the soul.
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I personally like the idea that a soul eater can counter a viking spirit by devouring the soul.
Agreed, and a good viking spirit counter is IMO overdue.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

While it may be thematic to place a figure on their card, it is not practical in a tournament setting. I have seen people rush off and forget a figure many a time, and this could easily lead to someone else having your figure. Plus, fitting Nilfheim, Braxas, and Zelrig together on a card could be a bit difficult.

And it isn't liking Viking spirits are OP or anything.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Your points are understandable so I will go ahead and update the card in my submission post to use "Spirit" Markers instead of "Soul" Markers. Not quite as perfect but close enough given the circumstances.

As far as a soul eater goes, I think that is a potentially interesting idea for a future custom but it remains outside the scope of what I'm looking for with this unit.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Personally, I would have rather had the markers stay Soul Markers. They get them the same way as Akumaken, so there's a connection there. They may use them for different things afterward, but they're still the same resource. Having every 'powered by the souls of their enemies' card have an increasingly obscure synonym for 'Soul' seems like a bad idea long term, and there is already precedence for two different powers using the same marker name.


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Oh, which precedence do you refer to?

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Personally, I would have rather had the markers stay Soul Markers. They get them the same way as Akumaken, so there's a connection there. They may use them for different things afterward, but they're still the same resource. Having every 'powered by the souls of their enemies' card have an increasingly obscure synonym for 'Soul' seems like a bad idea long term, and there is already precedence for two different powers using the same marker name.
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I can feel @Dad_Scaper warming up his wurdz. I too would like to know which figures set the precedent for this problem. My memory stinks.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I've given up explaining the difference between "precedents" and "precedence." I'd say something if it was on a card.

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