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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

I am fine with it 'popping out' if he dies, I could totally see that happening in the comics.

Special Powers and some attacks may get around Mantrap, that is fine.

A figure gaining SS after being Mantrap-ed would still be stuck. If that is a sticking point we can move the SS text to the end and say 'Figures with SS are not affected by Mantrap'.

Mantrap would only work for normal movement. It is intended as more of an annoyance than a complete lock down. There should certainly be figures able to get around it.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

What would you guys think about making Face of Fear a static power?
Something like:

FACE OF FEAR
If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, subtract 2 from the engaged figure's Defense number and the engaged figure may not roll defense against Death Sentence Special Attack. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

FACE OF FEAR
If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, subtract X from the engaged figure's Defense number, where X equals the highest numbered Order Marker on the card of a figure you control. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

The only thing I do not like is that it is negated by getting additional figures engaged to Fear.
This would quickly increase his usefulness, especially the first version would strengthen him and Judge Death as a team.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

I kind of like the first one. When engaged one on one, you can't really avoid the face of fear and non-fearless/insane figures are negatively effected. Once an ally jumps into the scrum though, Judge Fear can't remain locked in on just one figure and the face of fear effect is lost. It also gives him a nice bit of synergy with Judge Death, the two of them can teleport in and double team a support hero in reserve now.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

I had a thought just now. I'll post it later when I'm not on my phone.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

I actually really like the passive direction, the top one in particular. I'd like to see the Death Sentence part dropped, it's just unneeded complexity in my opinion.

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If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, that figure subtracts 2 from its Defense number. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

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I actually really like the passive direction, the top one in particular. I'd like to see the Death Sentence part dropped, it's just unneeded complexity in my opinion.

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FACE OF FEAR
If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, that figure subtracts 2 from its Defense number. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.
Yeah, I like this version too. Not a fan of calling out a special attack on another card.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

Well, it was actually a couple thoughts, anyways, here they are.

FACE OF FEAR
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on a Dark Judge you control, before taking a turn with that Dark Judge, you may choose a figure within 2 clear sight spaces of Judge Fear. The chosen figure rolls 2 fewer defense dice for the remainder of the turn. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

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FACE OF FEAR
All figures engaged to Judge Fear roll 2 fewer defense dice. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

Personally, my preference is the first as it's more universal and helps tie the Dark Judges together better while still having a limited range of affect.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

What if we worded this:

FACE OF FEAR
If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, that figure subtracts 2 from its Defense number. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

like this:

FACE OF FEAR
If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, that figure rolls two fewer dice when defending. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

so it would work with this:

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 2.
Unique figures may not roll more than 1 defense die and Common figures may not roll defense dice against this special attack. Androids, Undead, and destructible objects roll defense dice normally. After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, if Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

I would love if we could make Face of Fear work with Death Sentence. Let me know. Otherwise I think we should just move forward with Viegon's version.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

I think the two powers would only overlap if the figure had a defense of 1 or 2. Otherwise you would subtract 2 from a 5 defense figure, giving him a defense of 3, which would then be reduced down to 1 by Death Sentence.

I can see what you are going for here, the face of fear 'paralyzes' a figure such that Judge Death can then reach into his chest with no chance for a dodge. I'm not sure you can get that combo going without a direct reference from one cards power to the other. While that does happen from time to time (Cyprien/Sonya, Green Arrow/Black Canary, etc.), it seems more reserved for 'couples' rather then occasional allies. I don't know the Dark Judge comic lore though so maybe they are more significantly linked that I imagine them to be.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

Bummer. I would like the to have sort of synergy between Fear and Death but it is looking like an impossibility. I really painted Death in a corner with Death Sentence.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Design Phase)

Yeah, the wording you have right now wouldn't work with Death Sentence. However, you could alter the effect of Face of Fear a little so that the powers do work together:

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FACE OF FEAR
If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, when that figure rolls defense dice, you may subtract 1 shield from whatever is rolled. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless and Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.
This way, since a hero attacked by Death Sentence can only roll 1 die, Face of Fear would be able to subtract any shield the defender does roll.

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