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Old January 21st, 2019, 07:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Considering it shadow would also pair well with our current shadow caster types.

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Old January 21st, 2019, 10:48 PM
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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Cool comments so far.

So the way I read the consensus thus far is:
- All are happy with Shrouded in Darkness & we may update some previous cards to use it.
- No issues expressed so far with DARKFIELD CAST. I however would like to change the activation to before moving.
- A little concern that the Glyph is a little too powerful & thoughts that we may add an additional clause to classify the tiles as shadow tiles.

So it seems I only need to address the glyph at this point. Cool.
To the points on power:
- First of all, keep in mind that it affects all figures, even your own. So it's kind of a level playing field in that respect. But it does stop snipers within it's field. And it does give those that can use it an advantage.
- I am happy to reduce the radius to 3 spaces.
- I would also be happy with attack -1 & defense -2.

Other thoughts:
- I did want to limit its time on the battlefield to only 2-3 rounds but couldn't think of an elegant or efficient way to do this.
- I also had a thought to reduce the movement of figures by 2. This to represent blundering around in the dark. But I thought adding it made the glyph too wordy. (It was a toss-up between the Energy Constructs clause or the movement. But I went the Energy Constructs clause because it was different.)
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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Why not reduce the Range instead of Defense? Seems to me that being shrouded in Darkness, while it may make dodging difficult, would help defense by hampering targeting and aim.

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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Here's a shot at it (I'd start with 3 or 4 glyphs on her card instead of 2, and then go like this):

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FLYING SYMBOL
GLYPH OF DARKFIELD
All figures within 3 spaces subtract 2 from their Move, Range, Attack, and Defense Numbers, to a minimum of 1 and cannot be targeted by or use attacks or special powers that require clear sight. Energy Constructs cannot move into or out of 3 spaces from this glyph. At the end of each round, add 1 wound to Energy Constructs within 3 spaces of this glyph, then remove this Glyph from the Battlefield. Figures with the Radar Sense or Shroud of Darkness special power are not affected by this glyph.
That makes it only one round, but gives her more to place. If you don't feel that's long enough for the glyph to really affect things, you can go back down to 2 glyphs and lose that clause, though. Or we could do something like make her reveal the "X" Order Marker on her card or the glyph is removed to make it seem like she has to keep "focus" to keep the glyph in play (it'd be like this):

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GLYPH OF DARKFIELD
All figures within 3 spaces subtract 2 from their Move, Range, Attack, and Defense Numbers, to a minimum of 1 and cannot be targeted by or use attacks or special powers that require clear sight. Energy Constructs cannot move into or out of 3 spaces from this glyph. At the end of each round, any Player may reveal the "X" Order Marker on a figure they control with the Darkfield Cast special power to add 1 wound to each Energy Construct within 3 spaces of this glyph. If no Player does, remove this Glyph from the Battlefield. Figures with the Radar Sense or Shroud of Darkness special power are not affected by this glyph.

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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Basing Movement effects on auras like that is always confusing. At what point during movement does the aura take effect?


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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Good point. Maybe nix the move part and go attack/defense/range then?

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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

What about this:
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DARKFIELD CAST
Start the game with 4 glyphs of Darkfield on this card. At the beginning of the round after rolling for initiative, you may place 1 glyph of Darkfield on an empty space within 6 spaces of Shadow Lass.

GLYPH OF DARKFIELD
All spaces within 3 spaces of this glyph are considered shadow spaces. Any figure moving onto these spaces must end their movement immediately. All figures on these spaces have a range of 1 and subtract 2 from their Attack, and Defense Numbers, to a minimum of 1 and cannot be targeted by or use attacks or special powers that require clear sight. At the end of the round, add 1 wound to Energy Constructs within 3 spaces of this glyph, then remove this glyph from the battlefield. Figures with the Radar Sense or Shroud of Darkness special power are not affected by this glyph.
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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

I like that direction all around. We can always tweak the number of glyphs she gets to influence how many rounds her powers remain relevant.

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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Really like those tweaks. Just a couple nitpicks:

Right now it looks to me like it's eliminating ranged attacks twice - once where it explicitly knocks range down to 1 and once where it says affected figures can't use attacks that require clear sight.

I'd limit her placement in Darkfield Cast to more like 3-4 spaces rather than 6. Six spaces is a pretty long ways to be able to chuck the thing, and lets her use her powers from a pretty safe position. I'd also chop the 'minimum of 1' language from the glyph.
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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

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Really like those tweaks. Just a couple nitpicks:

Right now it looks to me like it's eliminating ranged attacks twice - once where it explicitly knocks range down to 1 and once where it says affected figures can't use attacks that require clear sight.
Yeah, bit redundant. I was blindly thinking about IamBatman's suggested tweaks. Fixed below.
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I'd limit her placement in Darkfield Cast to more like 3-4 spaces rather than 6. Six spaces is a pretty long ways to be able to chuck the thing, and lets her use her powers from a pretty safe position.
Fair enough, no issues dropping that to 4.
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I'd also chop the 'minimum of 1' language from the glyph.
Not sure why we would drop that?

So how's this?:
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DARKFIELD CAST
Start the game with 4 glyphs of Darkfield on this card. At the beginning of the round after rolling for initiative, you may place 1 glyph of Darkfield on an empty space within 4 spaces of Shadow Lass.

GLYPH OF DARKFIELD
All spaces within 3 spaces of this glyph are considered shadow spaces. Any figure moving onto these spaces must end their movement immediately. All figures on these spaces subtract 2 from their Attack, and Defense Numbers, to a minimum of 1 and cannot be targeted by or use attacks or special powers that require clear sight. At the end of the round, add 1 wound to Energy Constructs within 3 spaces of this glyph, then remove this glyph from the battlefield. Figures with the Radar Sense or Shroud of Darkness special power are not affected by this glyph.
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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Actually, it still needs half of the suggested tweak. Otherwise my Cyclops in Darkfield can't target anyone, but can be targeted by your Cyclops outside of the Darkfield. It should block affected figures from line of sight.

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Re: The Book of Shadow Lass - DESIGN STAGE

Spidey, you are going to need to complete Anderson before Lass to avoid a cost bump.
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