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Old May 28th, 2013, 01:20 PM
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

Agreed with Bats except I think we should use the ugly mini. Seems to fit somehow.
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

I like Rebel Sidekick! And I think we should keep the range, as well!
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

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Agreed with Bats except I think we should use the ugly mini. Seems to fit somehow.
Depends, is this an after Death in the Family version?

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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

Alright, updated with Rebel Vigilante Sidekick (which I named as such to differentiate from a future potential Sidekick TO a Rebel, which would naturally be named Rebel Sidekick). Keeping the Range and the Teen Titans sculpt since both seem to have more support.

Sending this out to ERB this evening, assuming no one objects, and I should get to the Initial over the next few days!
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

Some ERBs in!

From davidlhsl:
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Robin (Jason Todd)

According to Newton, Force = Mass times Acceleration. Since when did Massachusetts begin to accelerate? When did the Jedi invade Boston and start using the Force? And why do physicists make such a big deal about acceleration including change in direction in addition to speed? When I press my accelerator pedal, my car doesn’t turn left.

My head hurts. Time to soak it in some ERB.

Rebel Vigilante Sidekick
Comma after “takes a turn with this special power”.

I believe the ruling is that referencing Robin here refers to this Robin rather than any other Robin in your Army, so I think you’re covered here. That’s not to say Dick Grayson and Tim Drake will be happy with Jason hogging the bonding turns.

Oh, and it’s clear that the hogging only applies to 6 or less. With 7 or greater, any Sidekick can go.

Reckless Engagement
Matches the wording from Huntress in the Sortable Index, but her updated card says “add 1 die” and “subtract 1 die”. Starfire also has this updated wording.

Vetted, and I love both the bonus and penalty you get from this.

Bat-Grapple 3
Vetted. Spoiler and Batman (BW) say “Instead of his/her”, but Tim Drake has this wording.

Final Thoughts
“Will the real Robin please stand up?” – from the show, To Tell the Truth
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Nothing here worries me at all.
I'll look at david's wording suggestions now.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 02:47 PM
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

And in from 1Mmirg:
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Very interesting work, johnny. I'll offer a few thoughts, fwiw:

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ROBIN
JASON TODD

HUMAN
UNIQUE HERO
SIDEKICK
BRASH
MEDIUM 4

LIFE 3
MOVE 5
RANGE 5
ATTACK 3
DEFENSE 3

50 POINTS

REBEL VIGILANTE SIDEKICK

After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Vigilante you control, you must immediately roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or lower, before taking a turn with that Vigilante, you must take an immediate turn with Robin. If you roll 7 or higher, after taking a turn with that Vigilante, you may take an immediate turn with Robin. If Robin takes a turn with this special power you may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.

[A little more fiddly than I like in a power, but the theme makes sense and I think this one is worth it. Very interesting approach; nice.]


RECKLESS ENGAGEMENT
If Robin is not adjacent to any friendly figures and is engaged with at least one enemy figure, add 1 to his normal attack and subtract 1 from his defense.

[Ouch, this guy is going to go down fast, isn't he? I'm glad he's cheap, because he doesn't seem likely to be around for long...]


BAT-GRAPPLE 3
Instead of a normal move, Robin may use his Bat-Grapple. Bat-Grapple has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Bat-Grapple, ignore elevations. Robin may grapple over water without stopping, grapple over figures without becoming engaged, and grapple over obstacles such as ruins. Robin may not Bat-Grapple more than 30 levels up or down in a single Bat-Grapple. If Robin is engaged when he starts to Bat-Grapple, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
Nice work. I'm a little leery of his staying power--I see Todd as aggressive, but also hard to hit and take out--but I like the ideas here enough to go with what you have. Distinctive design with only small variations--that impresses me the most! Nice.

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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

Just a thought, this guy is pretty tough. Since he has all those neg effect powers and the character effectively survived a bomb blast, perhaps it would be worth it to up his defense to either 4 or even 5 max.

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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

I wouldn't be against it... any thoughts?
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

I'm fine with it going up to 4.
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

4 defense, and even/or 4 life is fine from me! Tim has 4 on both.
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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

Yes, 4 on both, actually.

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Re: The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) (Design Phase)

Hmm... I'd rather not up both, as I'm kind of hoping to keep Todd as a pretty low-cost investment. I'm good moving Defense up, but is there a big push for 4 Life?

If testing shows he's too quick to go down it'll be the first thing to change, but...
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