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Old March 21st, 2009, 12:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

I get very annoyed at one-at-a-time-dice-rollers, too. Again, it may just seem this way, but almost every time I've seen someone roll large numbers of dice one at a time, they've failed the roll.


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Old March 21st, 2009, 12:45 PM
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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

Yes, it can be tedious rolling the dice a few at a time, and rolling one at a time seems to fail. But like with what I said, and what Killercactus also said, it may just be an illusion. But yes, I think it would be annoying; both for the roller and the rollie. But, if it works, it works.

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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:25 PM
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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

You're supposed to get a more stable average with more die rolled.

I learned it as uncommon sense, but I think it's called the Law of Large Numbers on wikipedia.

It only seems to be less effective when you roll all at the same tive because you expect more.

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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

Here's something weird I found looking at the dice probability chart...

If DW9000 has to defend against a 4 skull attack, he needs 44.4% of his 9 dice to come up shields. The odds of getting at least that many is 35%.

However, if a Sentinel needs to block a 4 skull attack, he needs 50% of his 4 dice to come up shields. The odds of getting at least that is 40.7%.

So, even though the Sentinels need a higher percentage of shields, the odds of getting it are higher with less dice.
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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

Of course, the sentinels are special, as they have Shields of Valor, as you included in your numbers.

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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

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You're supposed to get a more stable average with more die rolled.

I learned it as uncommon sense, but I think it's called the Law of Large Numbers on wikipedia.

It only seems to be less effective when you roll all at the same tive because you expect more.

"Hey, Jotun has 8 attack. Insta kill!!!"

"Only 4 skulls!?! My dice are broken!!!
One time I attacked a 6-defense Zelrig twice with a 6-wound Krug. I managed one wound. That's just how the dice fall sometimes. Of course I was furious, but there've been times where I've thrown 2 skulls on 8 dice and my opponent whiffed. I can't remember any of those times in detail, because what was supposed to happen happened (my 8 dice won).

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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

One would think the high base defense of the Deathwalkers would discourage figures from attacking. Unfortunately, it attracts them.

From my experience, the Deathwalkers either make or break games. Sometimes they can sit on height, and your opponents can't do a thing. At other times, that Aubrien Archer rolls 2 skulls, and you stare in horror at the 1 shield you rolled. Fortunately, I still don't have the "pleasure" of whiffing to that lone Arrow Grut. At least the Deathwalkers look sharp.

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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

My last game with my family, DW9k murdered my sons army due to terrain. It had alot of water so I stayed back and just bombed them into submission.

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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

Not really. That nine defense is not that good with one life, especially with the repulsors around. His offense isn't that great since most of the time he will be only attacking one figure. Q9 is FAR better for 40 points more.

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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

I love using Deathwalker 9000 and think he looks cool, but he is normally the first character I lose. I'm lucky to have him survive passed the 2nd round. The last 3 games that I've played him, he was taken out 1st round because I rolled all blanks. I gave up on Deathwalker and started using Major Q10, because he has more lives.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 09:31 AM
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Re: The Book of Deathwalker 9000

I think the Deathwalkers are more of a cleanup. If you send them out early, they will get murdered by heavyhitters or swarms. Of course, towards the end of the game it will be hard to get an explosion off, but the normal attack is much stronger and that can be used. Once the swarms and powerful figures are eliminated, not much will be able to penetrate the high defense. Lone arrow gruts might inflict a couple wounds on a 4 defense 6 life hero, but it will never (fine, "almost never") penetrate 9 defense. Especially 8k's rapid fire that can pick apart lone squads.

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