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I think you missed the point. You are trying to equate religious beliefs with a heightened conscience. I am saying that I do not believe there is any correlation between religion and conscience, and saying there is a correlation is an insult to religious people, suggesting that they only behave because they're a-skeert. And I think that when people say they wouldn't vote for a non-Christian based on the reasoning that religion somehow improves your moral compass, they are using that statement as an excuse to vote for people just because they share a belief system, ignoring political capability in favor of a comfortably similar background.
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Heck, religious people know they will be forgiven for their sins, so why would they be afraid of the afterlife if they did something wrong? Heck, when I was growing up in Chicago Heights, I worked at a restaurant patronized by a lot of church going mobsters. They were religious but didn't have a problem doing their mobster type business. I grew up Catholic but I don't participate in religion any longer (haven't for quite a long time). I don't consider myself to be religious, but I sure as heck know the difference between right and wrong. To say that someone that is religious is better suited than me to run for public office is quite insulting and dead wrong. A qualified person for office can be of any color, race, sex or religious belief or non-belief. They can even have a non-traditional name and be qualified. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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I have a friend and co-worker named Luke. He's actually the one who introduced me to Heroscape. Luke comes from a large family, and has 3 brothers: Matthew, Mark, and John. Now...what if I tried to tell you that he doesn't come from a Christian family? It would be pretty hard to believe, don't you think? Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born of a Muslim man, which by birthright, makes him a Muslim as well, according their religion. Instead of naming their son "Jeremy" or "Steve", they chose a Muslim name, after his father. This is not the practice of someone who has supposedly renounced his religion, as Obama claims his father had. The timeline is pretty clear. His parents divorced when Barack was very young, then his mother remarried, and to another Muslim. The new family moved to Indonesia where Obama attended Muslim (and reportedly Catholic) schools. As for what religion was practiced (or not) behind closed doors is speculation. Being born of a Muslim father, raised by another Muslim man, in a Muslim country, and attending Muslim schools leaves little room for second guessing in my book. If looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and acts like a duck...it's a duck. |
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Fortunately there are many of us in this nation that aren't opposed to cultural diversity, and are not as culturally, or religiously bogotted as others. That's the only explanation I can give for Barack's success, if you are anable to understand it and are unwilling to accept his explanation of his own beliefs and religious upbringing..
“Heroscapers is too old for that crap.” ~IamBatman "Hahahah! You losers! I told you so!!" ~Clancampbell |
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During the debates I try to get a real sense of where someone's morality lies, and how they view the world and what core values they would use on which to base decisions. Gore lost my vote as soon as he said the phrase "The Right Americans" when answering a question on who should get tax relief. That right there told me that he doesn't view Americans as a land of equals, or as a land of people who SHOULD be treated as equals. That viewpoint is diametrically opposed to my own and proved to me that I didn't want Gore making decisions on my behalf. So during these debates I'm going to be watching out for those clues about where a candidate's moral compass is pointing. I'm going to be listening for promises that I know can't be realized, but are said anyway to try to make the candidate sound more capable than everyone else. I'm going to be listening to how they sneak in a jab at another candidate's record when answering a direct question. I'm going to be listening for a candidate's mischaracterizations of their opponents. I'm going to be listening for evidence of willingness to do the right thing, even though it might be difficult or unpopular. I'm going to be listening for glimpses into a person's managerial style. I'm going to be listening for the phrase "I don't know." Why? Because I'd like to see a candidate who wasn't afraid to admit that they didn't have all the answers. That person is going to seek out and appoint the most knowledgable and capable people he can find to do the jobs he cannot and to surround himself with trustworthy people to give him the best advice and best intelligence. Wait, didn't I say I wasn't going to post in this thread? Crap! Environmentalists make great compost. |
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BTW, I don't like any of these jokers but just own up to taking a cheap shot and be done with it. It falls on me, it seems, to inform you that religion--at least in our country--is not inherited, regardless of what some kooks in the middle east, or even the middle of Detroit, say. You are the brute squad! Quote:
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I think the entire discussion of Obama's religious should be completely off-topic. His religion is irrelevant, or at least it should be. Is he somehow a worse person because his father gave him a Muslim name? Are his morals compromised because he spent a portion of his youth in a nation whose citizens are predominately Muslim?
Browncoat, allow me to direct a counter-argument to your 'friend named Luke' argument. My brothers and I all share similarities in our names. Those names are: Matthew David Joshua Paul Timothy Michael Each name has one from the Old Testament, one from the New. I will not try to tell you that my parents were not religious. But I will tell you that I most certainly am not. I can't control the name my parents gave me. I can't control my father's line of work. But just because my dad was a preacher does not mean that I am a Christian. It means I'm a preacher's son, and nothing more. So in summary: 1) Obama's childhood history does not make him a Muslim, any more than mine makes me a Christian. 2) Even if it did, and even if he was a Muslim, it shouldn't matter one bit. The only reason it does matter is if you are a religious bigot. Browncoat, you've done some awesome stuff here, and I think you're pretty cool. I just think you're way, way, way off the reservation on this one. http://drakesflames.blogspot.com Drake's Flames, my crassly opinionated game review site. Updates three times a week. |
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Since Knapper took Iowa, what do you think of his chances at the Geneva Convention?
I like Obama. I'm actually sitting about a mile from his house as I type this. |
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Environmentalists make great compost. |
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The religion thread lives!!!!!
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