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Old January 13th, 2022, 06:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

The Heroes have recently voted to revise the throwing rules to the following:

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All figures with the Super Strength special power gain the following special power:

THROW SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack Special.
Choose an unoccupied small, medium, large, or huge Destructible Object adjacent to this figure. Before rolling attack dice for this special attack, you must place the chosen Destructible Object adjacent to the defending figure. After using this special attack, the Destructible Object receives one wound for each skull you rolled.

The Range and Attack numbers for this special attack are based on the size of the Destructible Object:
Small: Range 5. Attack 2.
Medium: Range 4. Attack 3.
Large: Range 3. Attack 4.
Huge: Range 2. Attack 5.

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Old January 30th, 2022, 12:28 AM
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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

SP updated with a couple of notes taken from the old rules.

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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

so now the thrown DO isn't an extra attack? That kinda takes the fun away from using the DOs.
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Old January 30th, 2022, 08:11 AM
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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

I've been largely staying out of it since I don't have a vote, but I'm also not the biggest fan of such a significant change, especially without testing. But since the group has largely abandoned interest in casual rules anyway, not sure there's much interest in doing things like testing or making sure we get these really right.

If anything, if we're not going to support them or test them to make sure they feel right, I kind of feel like we should just scrap these. Anyway, not something I'm passionate about one way or another, so I'll go back to keeping out of it.

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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

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Hi there! I've attached my playtest below. Please note that this is only my second playtest and I'd greatly appreciate any constructive criticism you may have. I've taken the liberty of bolding and color coding chunks of the game where objects really came in to play or were thrown for your convenience.

Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Toyhandle Illuminati (Avengers Beast, Avengers Dr. Strange, Avengers Black Panther, Avengers Iron Man) 1000 vs Green Lantern Corps (Kilowog, Hal Jordan, Jon Stewart) 1000
Four parked cars just outside center of the map
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Teen Titans (Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, Red Robin [with Smoke Pellets], Superboy) vs Fantastic Four (Future Foundation Spider-Man, The Thing, Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman)
Two parked cars and two T-Spheres just outside of center of the map.
Spoiler Alert!


THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: In general, I think that certain small objects with special powers are fairly powerful here, and large objects don't feel very good at all. I think you could up the attack numbers on large and huge objects.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: It definitely seems like some objects are way better under these rules than others. The T-Spheres especially seemed highly impactful and if F4 got to them first I think they could have gotten Raven off the board early and made this a very different game. The large objects generally seem kind of underpowered here without anything extra going on- most times it's better for an SS character to base the person they want to hit and melee them, or the SS character already has range so it's moot point. I think one of the more interesting things you can do here is hex denial- I would have liked to get to a point where The Thing and Spider-Man could have monopolized the elevated spaces in the middle of Conflict Chernobyl by planting a car up there after a throw but it didn't pan out that way and it does seem kind of niche. It would also be interesting to maybe go back and errata things like the Parked Car to interact with being thrown but I understand why that would have already been done if it was going to be done. As is, I think the biggest thing large objects can do is deny part of the map or help certain super strength characters "zone" their opponent. I could imagine Beast defending against an attack, moving 3 spaces towards a car, throwing the car at an opposing figure, having Black Panther base that opposing figure then knock them back towards Beast for a dagger roll, etc. I think this is a little bit of a flavor miss, because it disincentivizes your Hulk-style characters just picking up a street light and hitting you with it as opposed to just hitting you with your fist.
Thanks, that Green really hurts the eyes so I changed it to blue. Overall the tests look good. I agree that some characters with appreciate this more than others, I'd keep in mind that this gives characters like Hulk both a Special Attack to bypass certain powers and also range if he can't quite (or doesn't want to) engage a character.

Also in the future when you are testing something that is already public, just post the results in that thread.
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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

Cool. Nice progress.

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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

@Alexandros

Very well done and nice insights. Don't be shy. nice work.

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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

Someone else removed these from the playtesting signup thread, I was planning on two tests. Were we good with only one set of tests here?
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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

My bad. Pretty sure I did that instead of the Street Lights when I was trying to take down the Street Lights for you. Probably worth reposting and trying to get one more set. Apologies.

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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

Looking good so far. Definitely still want at least one more test though.

Or DID we have a second test already and Bats deleted that too?
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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

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Or DID we have a second test already and Bats deleted that too?
Unsure, but blaming Bats IS my favorite thing to do around here.
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Re: The Book of Casual Rule: Throwing Destructible Objects

We did not.

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