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Re: The Book of Moondragon (Public Playtesting)

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Moondragon @210 points

Set 1
Map: Island Plane Crash (No E-Glyph)
Units: Rocket Robo: Moondragon (210), Robot (210), Rocket II (195), Kitana (185)- 800 total vs Red Moon: Ms. Marvel (350), Red Tornado (300), Moon Knight (150)- 800 total
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Set 2
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Ink Mistress: Moondragon (210), Merlyn (160), Tattooed-Man (125), Robot (210), Aaron Cash (75) - 780 total vs Song of Power: Luke Cage (190), Iron Fist (260), Songbird (180), Speedball (150)- 780 total
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Overall: An interesting design that can do some cool stuff. She's doing a whole lot of stuff for relatively low points and no investment though, and even if you don't get all of the different aspects of the powers firing at once most of them are pretty good tricks on their own. I personally wouldn't say no to a minor point bump and maybe a requirement for there to be an OM on her card for the chess power to happen.

I think the synergy for Manipulated figures can easily get out of hand if more are made, feels like that should just be limited to her chosen pawn people. Definitely the attack and defense boost at least. So like the first power declares the chosen people her chosen whatevers, then can add to attack and defense of a chosen whatever if they're Manipulated.


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Re: The Book of Moondragon (Public Playtesting)

Yeah, though I overplayed it on the chess stuff by moving both teams at the same time, I'll agree that she does a lot for a little investment and that raising the cost wouldn't be unreasonable.

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Re: The Book of Moondragon (Public Playtesting)

Wow, 6 games. Impressive SW! I wondered about the Manipulated personality being a hook, was thinking we had someone else that could also do that but then started thinking I was confusing myself with Hypnotized.
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Re: The Book of Moondragon (Public Playtesting)

Thanks for the tests!

We can probably just drop the Manipulated personality in general. No real need for it. Not often personalities are synergy hooks, nor do I imagine you get denied from many armies from Mantis by potential shared personalities.

Also fine with an OM requirement for Cerebral Chess, as well as a minor point bump.

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Moondragon
NAME = MOONDRAGON
SECRET IDENTITY = HEATHER DOUGLAS

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TELEPATH
PERSONALITY = DAUNTLESS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 210

MENTAL MANIPULATION
At the start of the game you may choose a Unique Hero in each Army. While a chosen Hero is within 9 spaces of Moondragon or destroyed, it has the personality of Manipulated, the class of Guardian, or Pawn if it is an enemy, instead of what is listed on its card. Before a Manipulated Hero attacks or defends, you may add or subtract 1 from its Attack or Defense number.

CEREBRAL CHESS
After rolling initiative, you may roll 9 combat dice, then choose one of the following:
• For each skull rolled, move a friendly figure up to 2 spaces.
• For each shield rolled, move an enemy figure without the Mental Shield special power up to 2 spaces.
If a figure is Manipulated, you may move that figure up to 2 additional spaces. Figures moved by this special power ignore all leaving engagement attacks.

TITANIAN TECHNIQUE
When defending against an attack, if you roll more skulls than the attacking figure, the most wounds Moondragon can take from this attack is one and, if the attacking figure is adjacent to Moondragon, it receives a wound.

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Army Test
Map: Dark Dimension *Using C3G’s Molten Lava Rules
Units:
Army 1 (me) 1010pts: Moondragon 210pts, Star-Lord 250pts, Abigail Brand 170pts, Hulk 380pts.
Army 2 (me) 1010pts: Pinhead 335pts, Jason Voorhees 175pts, Freddy Krueger 175pts, Michael Myers 135pts, Leatherface 95pts, Sam 95pts.

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Army Test
Map: Dark Dimension *Using C3G’s Molten Lava Rules
Units:
Army 1 (me) 970pts: Moondragon 210pts, Quasar (Phyla-Vell) 370pts, Drax I 350pts, Kree Scout X1 40pts, .
Army 2 (me) 970pts: Thanos 500pts, Superman II 450pts, Skrull Infiltrator X2 10pts.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 210pts is about right, both games were kind of swingy, especially the last; being on a lava map (even with C3G rules) didn’t help that.
Balance feels good, try to keep her a little further back and away from anyone who could deliver a one shot and she’ll be messing with your opponents for most of the game, especially if they are stuck in engagements with other figures.
Mental Manipulation is great, I’m pretty sure I managed to remember every roll, might be trickier to run with a few other figures that adjust things to keep track of it all.
Cerebral Chess for me would be the draw for a consistent drafting pick, moving out half your army to better points or dragging your enemies around is great.
Titanian Technique wasn’t used as much, but comes in handy when your opponent decides Moondragon is becoming too big of a problem to ignore.
Flying even makes the Move of 5 feel nice.


GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I’d say Moondragon did well on the first game, despite the team losing abysmally, and overperformed the second (although lava maps are a friend of mind control type powers). Moondragon didn’t do much direct damage, especially in two armies with a heavy hitter focus, but definitely makes up for it in her other abilities which leave the enemy confused as to whether to focus on the big guns or go out of the way to avoid bad rolls and being moved around the whole game. Also it was really cool to kill Thanos before he could even do anything after being Spurned.

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Re: The Book of Moondragon (Public Playtesting)

Sounds good to me.

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Re: The Book of Moondragon (Public Playtesting)

Updated with those changes. 20 point bump to 230. OM requirement on Cerebral Chess. Dropped personality modification. Limited the stat boost to specifically the ones you're changing.

More than enough to play it safe. Splash should have his games in today, so I'm gonna propose we move to Final Editing.
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Re: The Book of Moondragon (Vote 4 Final Editing)

Yea

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I propose a vote to move to On Deck.
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