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The Book of Wonder Twin (Zan)

The Book of Wonder Twin (Zan)

C3G DC WAVE 36
FOOL ME TWICE



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the DC 75th Anniversary set.
Its model number and name are #059 / Wonder Twins. (Just cut the figures apart)

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Character Bio - Zan and Jayna. Alien twins from the planet Exxor. When together, the two can use their unique shapeshifting powers. Jayna has the power to transform into any living creature, and Zan into any non-Living organism. Often accompanied by their simian companion, Gleek.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: How is height advantage determined when defending against this special attack?
    A: You determine height against the DO's position on the map
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:
  • As a Champion, Wonder Twin has these Champion Synergies.
  • Wonder Twin must have been adjacent to a Jayna figure you control during this round to use his special powers.
Outgoing Synergy:
  • Wonder Twin must have been adjacent to a Jayna figure you control during this round for Jan to use her special powers.
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • N/A
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins -

NAME = Wonder Twin
SECRET IDENTITY = Zan

SPECIES = Exxorian
UNIQUENESS = Unique Hero
CLASS = Champion
PERSONALITY = Enthusiastic

SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 75


WONDER TWIN POWERS, ACTIVATE!
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Zan, you may take a turn with a Jayna figure you control. If Zan was not adjacent to a Jayna figure you control at any point this round, he may not use any other special power on this army card.

FORMS OF WATER
Start the game with one water tile, one single-hex Glacier Mountain obstacle and one four-hex Glacier Mountain obstacle on this card. After moving and instead of attacking with Zan, you may switch his figure with a terrain piece on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card or the card of a Jayna figure you control or at the end of the round, you may place that terrain piece on this card and place Zan on an empty space adjacent to Jayna. If Zan is on this card and a placed terrain piece is removed from the battlefield, immediately switch it with the Zan figure on this card.

ICE MISSILE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 4.
Instead of moving and attacking normally, choose an empty space within 7 spaces of Zan. Place Zan on this card and the single-hex Glacier Mountain from this card on that space and then roll 4 attack dice against all adjacent figures. Each figure rolls defense dice separately. Figures without the Ice Resistance special power that are wounded by this special attack cannot move until your next turn. This special attack may only be used once per round.

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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins -

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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

Glad to see these guys being worked on!!!

Few things. For Zan, if he changes to a water tile, and is still considered to be Zan, how would you win? The opponent can't attack you, and you can't do anything.

For WT Powers, if they're not adjacent to each other, they can't use powers. So technically Jayna's movement powers would shut off immediately open moving a space away from Zan. Could we change it to "If they're not adjacent at the start of their turn?" That way they can split apart to attack someone, but at the risk of stranding themselves.

Also, if Zan turns into a puddle, and Jayna is killed, Zan CAN'T turn back into himself, since the power is negated.

I like the synergy between the two, there's just a lot of weirdness we need to hash out.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

His terrain is only considered Zan while Jayna is adjacent to him, but that opens the question of being adjacent to Water tiles. But for end of game purposes, you kill Jayna and he's stuck in terrain form permanently. That is why I specifically made his glacier mountains obstacles not DOs. So I didn't have to worry about wounds transferring or anything.

I could see limiting it to the start of turn. Still pretty bad if you actually end up with them separated.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

What do you think of making poker chip counters for the water and ice tiles (like we did for the ant swarm) and giving them a height of 1 so they can be adjacent?

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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

For them to have height they have to have a card and I definitely don't want that. Could maybe work height into the power.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

Sorry, just realizing now I never responded to you in your workshop. I think I got halfway through typing up a comment then wandered off.

Anyways, normal attacks that affect multiple figures at once get real confusing when it comes to high ground, targeting, and special powers. BUT, I think most problems with the # of attack dice rolled can be solved with the Swordplay/Bo Staff precedent (first figure targeted “locks in” the number of attack dice rolled) and it’s already a mechanic in the game with Dragon Man, Changeling, etc. Not the biggest deal, just the rare mechanic that makes me go blech every time I see it.

I’ll offer this alternative, but I know it’s more words on an already busy card;
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Choose 3 spaces in a straight line from Jayna. One at a time, attack all figures on those spaces with Jayna’s normal attack, even if she is engaged.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

That's not a bad alternative, it's only like 2 characters longer than what I have.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

Yeah, I think the power needs to turn on/off at the beginning of their turn. If Zan is in ice form, just kill Jayna to win.

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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

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For them to have height they have to have a card and I definitely don't want that. Could maybe work height into the power.
You don't have to do either. The bridge walls have height and have no card, for example.

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Re: The Book of Wonder Twins - Breathing

But they aren't water or ice tiles. A Clix base proxy for the terrain would still just be the terrain.
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