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Old February 25th, 2022, 05:13 PM
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

What if we did it more like Warrior engagement so that the Call makes you move towards her but if you try to leave she tries to use her snakes to stun you
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If Medusa rolls a skull or blank against a figure leaving an engagement with her, that figure may not leave the engagement with Medusa this turn.
Or the engagement strike style
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The first time a figure engages Medusa, you may roll an unblockable attack die against it.
I think I almost like the warrior engagement style one slightly better. Thoughts. It's still early and no tests have been run yet, so not a huge deal if it ends up affecting cost.
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Old February 25th, 2022, 06:08 PM
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

I’d stick with just a skull but inflict an additional wound if you hit for the venom. Prefer the Warrior Engagement option as well.

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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

Cool. Think I'll go with that then. Was wondering if the extra wound would be too much initially so I went the other route.
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Old February 25th, 2022, 06:18 PM
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

People can (and probably will) just choose to not try to disengage.

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Old February 26th, 2022, 12:37 PM
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

Was just thinking about this and I think these changes would help. The idea of the first power is that they must move, so a 1 space requirement feels necessary but still shows that they are fighting the call, but they can choose to just engage as well.

For the stare, I realized that the defense bonus would never occur tied to your next OM so I think tieing it to your opponent's next OM reveal works better since it lets the Defense bonus happen and gives a bit more strategy.
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HYPNOTIC CALL 12
Before an opponent would begin the movement of a figure they control without the Mental Shield special power that is within 6 spaces of Medusa, they must roll the 20-sided die. If a 12 or lower is rolled, that figure must move at least one space and end its movement closer to Medusa than at the start of the turn, if possible.

PETRIFYING STARE 12
Before an opponent's figure without the Blind Warrior special power attacks Medusa with a normal attack, that opponent may roll the 20-sided die. If they do not, they must subtract a skull from whatever is rolled. If they roll 12 or lower, the attacking figure's turn immediately ends and until the next time youthat opponent reveals an Order Marker, the attacking figure cannot move, attack, or use any special powers on its Army Card and adds 1 die to its defense.

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Old February 26th, 2022, 12:43 PM
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

That change to Hypnotic Call looks good. I'm not sure if the trigger is completely clear, though. Here's what I mean:

Does it trigger if you're starting your turn and you would choose to move 0 spaces with a figure? Or do you have to actually start to move that figure one space or more? Like if I have a figure locked in a bunch of engagements, am I going to have to roll for it or can I choose not to if I decide I'm not moving this figure this turn?

And, yeah, the Petrifying Stare change makes sense. It doesn't really shut down that figure for long either way, since either way by their next turn they'll be back. It does give you a chance to get in a turn where they don't have any defensive powers, though, which is nice.

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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

Just reviewed some things and it seems like that is a good workaround that is also semi thematic as Wonder Woman was able to resist moving in the Bloodlines movie but she almost gave in and then she blinded herself before moving back in to attack, so I'll change it to "Before an opponent would begin the movement of..."
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

OK, so that'd take away the use her to generate leaving engagement attacks strategy, but that's probably for the best?

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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

I think so too. She has a lot going on competitively as it is and it will lessen the feel bad a bit as she will be a pain to take down once you get engaged with her.
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

Came in a bit hot in the first game so I'm dropping her life and defense by 1 each going into game 2.

Added 1 defense back for Game 3.

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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Medusa

Version Tested
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 330-350?
- Give a brief overview. Doesn't feel broken but was much stronger than I would like overall. Gonna tone down her life and defense by 1 to see if that helps going forward.
Map: Highways and Dieways
Units: Medusa, Joker II, Lex Luthor (Battlesuit), Mister Mind, Mandarin (1,200) vs Wonder Woman I, Batman II, Superman II, Grid (1,200)
Spoiler Alert!

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Version Tested
Spoiler Alert!


Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 290-300?
- Give a brief overview. This game felt a lot better. She fell pretty quickly but her powers made her a priority target so she drew attention away from Cap, Zemo, and the others.
Map: Remains of Cilonesia
Units: Medusa, Cap I, Baron Zemo (Heinrich), Batman (JL II), Nebula, Headpool (1,200) vs Batman (Outsiders), Geo-Force, Katana II, Black Lightning, Arsenal, Grid (1,200)
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 280-300?
- Give a brief overview. This was a neat little team but it could use more efficiency. Not getting a single unblockable with Legion of Zoom definitely did not help but Joker dealt out several wounds to Jean which helped significantly but it was not enough in the end. Thinking I overcompensated with medusa so bumping back to 6 defense.
Map: Wyrmwalk
Units: Medusa, Joker (IJL), Reverse-Flash, Weather Wizard I, Mirror Master (Leg Swap) (1,000) vs Prof. X, Jean I, Beast, Cyclops I, Angel, Iceman I (1,000)
Spoiler Alert!

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Version Tested
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 300
- Give a brief overview. This was more like how I thought the first trinity match should have gone. They were a threat but the trinity had more tricks in its bag.
Map: Elm Street
Units: Medusa, Mister Mind, Rainbow Raider, Jean Grey (1,000) vs Wonder Woman III, Batman III, Superman III (1,000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: She was tricky at first seems a tad too tough and then too weak. The current mix seems optimal for the 300 point goal. She definitely feels draftable though.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: She's vulnerable from range and the not moving to avoid the call is neat. The disengage bit never really came up but is a nice option. The one time it would have I rolled a blank.
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Re: The Book of Medusa (Initial Playtesting)

Looks good! pre-yea for playtesting once the SP is updated to 6 Life.

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