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Old March 28th, 2021, 10:57 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

I believe this is the first time a cost reduction has ever been used in a unit (at least C3G and C3V/SoV). I don't think the mechanic seems too "customy;" I could see this having been done with the official units if the game was in print for longer.

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Old March 28th, 2021, 11:10 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Cool ideas. C3G already has plenty of stuff that pushes the idea of what Heroscape can be, so this Silvermane doesn't feel out of place. The hard part would of course be figuring out how much to reduce prices by and things like that, but it doesn't sound impossible.

Dig all 3 of Bloodsport's powers. I like how reusable Manic Aggression is. Being an Insane Criminal gives him a pretty wide synergy web, which is cool.

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Old March 29th, 2021, 02:34 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Co-designed with @Karat !
BOW BEFORE SHAO KAHN!!!
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NAME = SHAO KAHN

SPECIES = IMMORTAL
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CONQUEROR
PERSONALITY =

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 340?


MASTER TACTICIAN
At the beginning of your turn, if there is at least one revealed Order Marker on this card, you may rearrange any unrevealed Order Markers on cards in your army. You may move Order Markers from cards of your destroyed figures.

"IT'S OFFICIAL! YOU SUCK!"
Once per game, at the start of the round, if Shao Kahn has only 1 life remaining, you may reveal an "X" Order marker on this card. If you do, remove all wound markers from this card.

WRATH HAMMER
Once per round, after moving, choose a figure within 2 spaces of Shao Kahn. Roll an unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. If you roll a skull, you may move Shao Kahn adjacent to that figure and attack with a normal attack, adding an automatic skull to whatever is rolled. After attacking this way, if Shao Kahn is engaged with a figure with 1 Life remaining you may attack an additional time.
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Old March 29th, 2021, 12:18 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

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Co-designed with @Karat !
BOW BEFORE SHAO KAHN!!!
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NAME = SHAO KAHN

SPECIES = OUTWORLDIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CONQUEROR
PERSONALITY =

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 340?


MASTER TACTICIAN
At the beginning of your turn, if there is at least one revealed Order Marker on this card, you may rearrange any unrevealed Order Markers on cards in your army. You may move Order Markers from cards of your destroyed figures.

"IT'S OFFICIAL! YOU SUCK!"
Once per game, at the start of the round, if Shao Kahn has only 1 life remaining, you may reveal an "X" Order marker on this card. If you do, remove all wound markers from this card.

WRATH HAMMER
Once per round, after moving, choose a figure within 2 spaces of Shao Kahn. Roll an unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. If you roll a skull, you may move Shao Kahn adjacent to that figure and attack with a normal attack, adding an automatic skull to whatever is rolled. After attacking this way, if Shao Kahn is engaged with a figure with 1 Life remaining you may attack an additional time.
Nice! Do you have ideas for a figure for him? I've been trying to find something that could be customized.
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Old March 29th, 2021, 12:25 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

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Cool ideas. C3G already has plenty of stuff that pushes the idea of what Heroscape can be, so this Silvermane doesn't feel out of place. The hard part would of course be figuring out how much to reduce prices by and things like that, but it doesn't sound impossible.

Dig all 3 of Bloodsport's powers. I like how reusable Manic Aggression is. Being an Insane Criminal gives him a pretty wide synergy web, which is cool.

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Yeah, I decided on Criminal so he would have some synergy with Lex Luthor (I) and Amanda Waller. Insane personality makes sense given his delusional state of mind and allows synergy with Harley Quinn. With Manic Aggression I wanted something different but would somewhat mimic Brutality 4. Extra-Dimensional Arsenal makes him less happy with Waller, but still useable. Kryptonian Assassin is the bread and butter Luthor themed power.
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Re: Public Design Workshop

For Shao Kahn, looks like there's a neat custom printed mini here, but I doubt it could count for an official figure (and it's expen$ive!)
Th Warlord figure miiight work with some modding (Shao Kahn is supposed to be 7'2" so it probly won't match up in height).

Plenty of hammers to choose from.


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Re: Public Design Workshop

I think the problem with point reduction mechanics is that if you cost the figure right, they're going to absorb the cost of that point reduction. But that also means the overall cost of the army is going to be the same, plus whatever that figure provides extra, making the overall exercise feel kind of pointless?

C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.


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Old March 29th, 2021, 02:36 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

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I think the problem with point reduction mechanics is that if you cost the figure right, they're going to absorb the cost of that point reduction. But that also means the overall cost of the army is going to be the same, plus whatever that figure provides extra, making the overall exercise feel kind of pointless?


That's what I tried to say when it was first brought up. Just make Silvermane cost 40 points (or whatever) less and it's the same end result.
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Old March 29th, 2021, 02:50 PM
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I'd put him at about 170. First power has to absorb a lot of those points he's deducting, IMO.
Yeah which kind of leads to the question of “what’s the point”?
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I think the problem with point reduction mechanics is that if you cost the figure right, they're going to absorb the cost of that point reduction. But that also means the overall cost of the army is going to be the same, plus whatever that figure provides extra, making the overall exercise feel kind of pointless?
Agreed...and exactly my thinking when I agreed with you in the comment above.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Hmm, a re-hash then
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TAX EVASION
Start the game with 3 black Investment Markers on this card. At the end of each round, you may either place one black Investment marker back on this card or place a black Investment marker onto the card of another figure in your army. There cannot be more than 3 black Investment markers on this card.

BUSINESS MINDED
At the beginning of the game, you may choose all Common Terrorists in your army to instead have the Class of Criminal. If they do, Silvermane has the class of Mastermind in addition to the class of Crime Lord. After taking a turn with Silvermane, you may remove an Investment Marker from this card and take a turn with any Criminal you control.
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Old March 29th, 2021, 04:46 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

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For Shao Kahn, looks like there's a neat custom printed mini here, but I doubt it could count for an official figure (and it's expen$ive!)
Th Warlord figure miiight work with some modding (Shao Kahn is supposed to be 7'2" so it probly won't match up in height).

Plenty of hammers to choose from.


What about a Stryfe mod?
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Old March 29th, 2021, 04:53 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Oh dang I bet that would work
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