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The Book of Thundercracker

The Book of Thundercracker

C3G IDW WAVE 53
THE END?



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The figure used for this unit is a repainted Walmart Exclusive Transformers Titan Guardians non-transforming figure made by Hasbro *sold in store only*.
Its name is Starscream.


Thundercracker Painting Guide

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Character Bio - Thundercracker claims the skies as his arena. He looks down in contempt on those who cannot leave the ground — he considers them lesser beings. He will often attack the flightless beings below him for no other reason than to satisfy his scorn.

His superiority in this realm is the only thing he is sure of. Thundercracker is not entirely committed to the Decepticon cause, and even has some seemingly contradictory sympathy for the humans they terrorize. Fear of retribution from Megatron and the influence of his peers is usually enough to bury these doubts. Regardless, he needs constant reassurance from Skywarp and Starscream (which occasionally take the form of threats) that he's where he needs to be. Sometimes, his heart's just not in the job. (tfwiki.net)
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  • Base Clarification: Iron Giant is a double-spaced figure.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Seeker Assault allows you to attack normally with another Seeker you control.
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • As a huge figure, Thundercracker interacts differently with these special powers.
  • As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Thundercracker interacts differently with these special powers.
  • As a figure with the Flying special power, Thundercracker interacts differently with these special powers.
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NAME = THUNDERCRACKER

SPECIES = CYBERTRONIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SEEKER
PERSONALITY = CONFLICTED

SIZE/HEIGHT = HUGE 15 (DOUBLE BASED)

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 6
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 260

SONIC BOOM 10
Immediately after initiative is rolled for the first round, you may move all Seekers you control 10 spaces in a straight line. If you do, then one at a time, roll the 20-sided die for every opponent's Order Marker. On a roll of 10 or higher, that opponent must remove the Order Marker.

AERIAL ADVANTAGE
While Thundercracker can use his Flying special power, he is always considered to have height advantage on non-flying figures.

SEEKER ASSAULT
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and making a normal attack with this figure, you may target and attack normally a new figure with any Seeker you control.

FLYING
SUPERSTRENGTH

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I present, Thundercracker!!



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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

To recap, my goal is to have the 3 Seekers be an 800 point block. That might prove to be a bit tricky as Starscream would be playing without anyone to usurp, but hopefully the positives and negatives of that power are balanced enough that he can play without one. Starscream is On Deck at 300, so that means Thundercracker & Skywarp need to average 250 points.

A few dials we can turn here. Starcreams' life ended up at 7, so we can bump the other 2 Seeker's life to 6 if more staying power is needed. Also I currently have it so Seeker Assault only lets two different Seekers attack, but I originally had it so it could be a double attack for one figure too. That's something we can go back to if they are coming in too weak on offense. Although Starscream tested pretty hot with a full time double attack, which is why I pulled back here.

As I was putting this thread together, I started thinking that maybe the Sonic Boom power could be once per game. It's generally a thing he does at the start of the battle, rather than again and again. Could make it a little stronger to basically give you one round vs. no OM's.
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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

Card Art:
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Figure Background: He likes to be in the air and has the Aerial Advantage ability on his card so he seems like a good fit for a generic sky background.

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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

3 thoughts.

Love the figures, both look great.

I'm not sure that Starscream offers much to the Seekers other than being another option for Seeker Assault. It may not be a huge deal, but I would have liked to see something tying Starscream more as the leader of the Seekers. Could tie the Seekers to Starscream by adding to the Seeker Assault power a condition that it only can be activated if Starscream is in play. Just an idea.

How would you feel about doing all the Seekers at 300 and shooting for a 900 point team? In general the Decepticons were more warriors than the Autobots and it would be nice to see the Seekers as better than the average Autobot (right now really only average Autobot is Prowl at 270).

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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

Can't lie, it's so hard for me to work in 1.0 language at this point. I've gone native.

Should be a "space" you pass over, though, not a hex.

Don't know much about this guy. What's his deal?

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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

Honestly, he is probably the weakest of the seekers as he is not really committed to the Decepticon cause (his wiki bio says "his heart is not really in it". His jets can make a massive sonic boom that disorients his opponents.

From TF Who's Who:

Profile: Soaring swiftly through the clouds, Thundercracker gazes with scorn on the creatures below. He is utterly contemptuous of anything that cannot lift itself off the ground and claim the sky. Occasionally, he expresses that contempt by diving and striking, leaving flame and destruction as he again speeds upward. Yet he is not totally convinced of the cause that he serves. Only the words of his Decepticon companions about the rightness of their cause, the destiny of conquest that is their birthright, convince him to go on. He is persuaded because he wants to be persuaded. Without a sense of purpose, Thundercracker would find his life unbearable.

Abilities: Like his fellow Decepticon jet fighters, Thundercracker can attain speeds of up to 1500 mph. He has the additional ability to produce controlled sonic booms of deafening magnitude that can be heard within a 200-mile radius. He can launch a drone rocket with a range of 500 miles that behaves similarly to a cruise missile and has the concussive force of 3000 lbs. of TNT. He has a shoulder-mounted automatic incendiary gun that shoots at 100 rounds per minute heat-resistant ceramic bullets containing a highly explosive flammable material that ignites on impact.

Weaknesses: Lingering doubts in Thundercracker's subconscious sometimes surface and impede his effectiveness, particularly when innocent human lives are endangered. Usually his fear of Decepticon Leader Megatron compels him to overlook these doubts.

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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

Gotcha. Did y'all want to rep the lingering doubts at all? Or is Starscream being a bit finicky enough difficulty to overcome when running them as an army?

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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

For me just being able to draft him into a non-Decepticon army would cover his changing heart. Which would suggest I return to the double attack working when alone so he can join the Autobots or GI Joe on a mission if you wanted to do that.

Not sure about trying to get the up to 900, I had to keep giving Starscream live to get him up to 300. I also don't think they should all be the same price, Starscream should have some kind of bump as their leader. The Decipticons were certainly more aggressively violent than the Autobots, that's what made them the badguys, but the Autobots had their share of fighters too. Prowl was a cop on Cybertron before the war broke out, Starscream was a scientist.
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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

I thought it would be nice to have a 800 point team for testing use, or add the 800 points to the current 1000 for a 1800 point game. But I suppose we could get the three of them up to like 860, then add Laserbeak in for a 1000 point team of Decipticon fliers. That would put the two other Seekers in the 280 range, with their leader Starscream at 300.
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Re: The Book of Thundercracker - breath

His Hearts Not ReallyIn It
If Thundercracker is your last figure on the board, remove him from the game.
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