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Old February 15th, 2021, 11:07 AM
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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

I'd much prefer Impale 13 over just Impale. Follows the precedent set by Whip 12 and Paralyzing Stare 16, and lets someone reuse the power with a different target number on future designs.

Although I still like Mortal Blow 13 just because it's such a simple power and thats a thematic name that could be reused on a wide variety of designs, whereas Impale 13 is a lot more niche.
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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

I think that Impale 13 sounds good. I don't mind creating a slightly less generic power for a design as prominent as Vlad the Impaler.

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Old February 15th, 2021, 12:29 PM
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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

As much as I like Impale, it's used on the Cathar Spearmen, and sadly not even reusable here
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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

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As much as I like Impale, it's used on the Cathar Spearmen, and sadly not even reusable here
Good catch.

Back to Mortal Blow 13, or something else? Piercing Strike 13 could also work maybe? I also like Brutal Tactics 13.
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Back to Mortal Blow 13, or something else? Piercing Strike 13 could also work maybe? I also like Brutal Tactics 13.
Mortal Blow and Piercing Strike both sound like something that would trigger when you hit as opposed to before even swinging. Brutal Tactics is my favourite of these three. I'm not overly keen on any of them but not against any either.

How about something like Brutalizing Stare? Or even just Brutalize?
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Good catch.

Back to Mortal Blow 13, or something else? Piercing Strike 13 could also work maybe? I also like Brutal Tactics 13.
Mortal Blow and Piercing Strike both sound like something that would trigger when you hit as opposed to before even swinging. Brutal Tactics is my favourite of these three. I'm not overly keen on any of them but not against any either.

How about something like Brutalizing Stare? Or even just Brutalize?
I mean, Impale 13 also sounds like something that would trigger when you hit, so I don't really mind. Especially since the roll occurs immediately before the attack roll, so in my mind the Mortal Blow roll is basically just part of the attack.
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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

In lieu of just "Impale 13," why not "Impaling Blow 13" or the like as @Strack9 had suggested? I don't like the sound of it quite as much as just Impale, but it still has the excellent nod to this figure's legend and theme. The second word could by any synonym, such as Impaling Strike 13, Impaling Sword 13, etc.
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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

Having thought about it more I agree with you. Perhaps we could lean on the impalement in some way since it's pretty accurate to the character. Impaling Strike? Impaling Blow? Vicious Impalement? Brutal Impalement?

The other three work but don't have the same impact as if impalement was mentioned in some way. It's a shame Impale is both already in use and not compatible with this design.

For what it's worth, I still also like Incite Fear.

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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

Mechanically, I feel as though we are going to have some issues. Roman Bonding is "fine" by me, but I get that the theme is off (and the Romans don't need much help). Without bonding, this unit is going to feel like a worse Finn. So any class change should either let it a) get bonding (the entire kit is only OK with bonding) or b) get a useful synergy that lets you plug him into some type of build. Skeletons of Annetelia are barely that, but it is acceptable. Regardless, any class change should remain at least somewhat historically accurate. He is the set's historical unit, and its not as though we call Samurai or Ashigaru units "Soldiers".

If we go with a different unsynergetic class, we should also look at retooling his powers a bit. He's not going to be great in the MS already (see Finn/Thorgrim in MS1), so he should have something that would at least make him seem interesting. Generic Paralyzing Stare doesn't really do that, since you can get a big attack elsewhere already in the set. Boosting ranged attackers who are adjacent to him might help push him over that edge from "meh" to "ok, I can see some instances of him being cool".

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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

Currently I think Vlad is very bland. Without any bonding, I don't see any reason for someone to use him in an army. While I agree he shouldn't use the warlord bond as a crutch, Vlad is not a worthwhile pick as a standalone hero. I propose we go back to the drafting board and rethink a power to replace Display of Cruelty. Some of the ideas tossed around on Discord:

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When Vlad destroys an opponent's figure, you may place a Marker on this card. When rolling for initiative, opponents must subtract 1 from their roll for each Marker on this card. A maximum of 3 Markers can be placed on this card.
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When Vlad destroys an opponent's figure, you may place a Marker on this card. Squad figures your opponents control subtract 1 from their attack dice when making a normal attack within X spaces of Vlad where X is the number of Markers on this card. A maximum of 3 Markers can be placed on this card.

For his class I think either Warlord or Lord both fit perfectly well. I'm also in favor of changing the name Mortal Blow to Incite Fear.
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Re: [Pod 2] Vlad III (Sorin) (Public Feedback)

You are workshopping this on Discord?
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