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Old January 23rd, 2020, 07:21 PM
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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

I’m good with that wording! Do we need the word “pet” in there? Feels a bit weird when referring to Hell Wolves, but it’s a minor point

I’ve definitely done some looking into the engagement thing and haven’t seen any issues. It could pop up, but everything that I see works just like they’re not there. Keep in mind it does affect ADJACENCY, for whatever that’s worth.

And from what I understand is you can still attack them from range 1 without being actually engaged. It’s essentially just a ranged attack from 1 space away then.
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Old January 23rd, 2020, 07:36 PM
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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

following but I have nothing to add that hasn't been said.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

If Tyson can have a white tiger as a pet, then a Hell Lord can have pet wolves. The mirroring of Lockheed's language changes where the OM is placed tough. I prefer it on the Hell Lord, a much safer place to put it. I wouldn't want to put an OM on the wolves card if I only had 1 left in play, lose initiative, wolf dies, lose OM1. So then you put OM1 on the Hell Lord, win initiative, and lose out on taking a turn with your last wolf.
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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

I skimmed the wording and didn’t catch that change. I definitely want the OM’s on the Hell Lord.
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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

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And from what I understand is you can still attack them from range 1 without being actually engaged. It’s essentially just a ranged attack from 1 space away then.
Yes you can attack an adjacent figure without being engaged because being engaged has no bearing on allowing you to attack that figure in the first place. Engagement only restricts you from attacking other people, it's not a requirement for attacking. If it was, melee figures wouldn't be able to attack their teammates.

The power in no way makes anything 'a ranged attack from 1 space away' however. That's something completely different and the power doesn't suddenly grant melee figures the ability to do them.

The power essentially has no effect at all on other things attacking/ defending against adjacent figures. It would only potentially effect powers that specifically said 'when attacking a figure Joe Bob is engaged with' and the like.. and I don't think there are many powers that use construction like that.


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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

Ah, but it does let figures that would otherwise be engaged move away without a leaving engagement attack. And still nullifies Daring Decoy.

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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

Well yeah of course it does. What of it?


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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

Oh, you slipped in the Robin thing. Yeah it does effect that.

But I'm not seeing what not taking LEAs has to do with melee attacks.

EDIT: Or are we just listing other things the power does do or something?

EDIT EDIT: To clarify I was talking about powers that trigger for 'melee' attacks instead of 'ranged' attacks and such. Not talking about targeting things. The power will stop enemies from targeting other friendlies, it will stop them from making LEAs, and it will allow friendlies to make ranged attacks (or melee attacks if for some reason they feel like attacking the Wolf) ignoring the distracted figure. But what it doesn't do is make anything a non-adjacent attack from one space away. Like it won't stop Counter Strikes from triggering or stop Wolverine from subtracting from someone's defense.


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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

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Oh, you slipped in the Robin thing. Yeah it does effect that.

But I'm not seeing what not taking LEAs has to do with melee attacks.

EDIT: Or are we just listing other things the power does do or something?
That's the one.

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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

Oh I know it’s not ACTUALLY range and doesn’t count as one. It was just a concept on how it works. Sorry for the confusion!

Basically I want no LEAs and I want to shoot others while adjacent, which we have covered! I can’t find any specific issues outside of certain powers requiring engagement, but that’d be clear on what it does then!

Unless we want to add a “May” In there so we could turn it on or off, but I don’t really see too much of a need.
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Re: The Book of the Nameless Wolves (Breathing)

I PROPOSE WE MOVE TO INITIAL TESTING!

I'll check the "pet" wording later on, the power won't change, just the wording so I'm not concerned.


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