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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Magneto(AoA)

Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Magneto(340), Mastermind(95), Deadpool(285), Wolverine(280)=1000 VS Fantastic Four(1000)
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Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Magneto(340), Rogue(300), Dazzler(100), Colossus(260)=1000 VS Mole Man(100), Lex Luthor(100), Superman(400), Doomsday(390)=990
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Magneto would have been a really good support to my army if I had found a way to hold back the other army. This was my friendís second time playing heroscape, and out of all four games we have played, he has won all of them. I donít know why, but it seems like I only roll bad rolls against him and he rolls good rolls. Magnetoís cost and balance would definitely be balanced in these games if my friend didnít have insane luck.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: At first, I was confused about The Rebellion, but I then realized its usefulness by how it can let you take four turns in a round by utilizing the X OM. I unfortunately was never really in position for X-Men Stand Together, mainly because of how fast Magneto was taken out in these games. If I used Magneto a few more times, his usefulness would definitely be more prevalent. I like Magneto, but he was unfortunately my friendís first choice when he was looking for someone to attack.
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Old June 26th, 2020, 06:32 PM
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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

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PLAYTEST UNIT: Magneto(AoA)

Army Test 1
Map: Mountain Spring
Units: Magneto(AoA), Blink, Rogue, Cyclops(II) (1030) VS Cosmic Boy, Super Boy, Timber Wolf, Lightning Lad (1030)

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Army Test 2
Map: Mountain Spring
Units: Magneto(AoA), Professor X, Nightcrawler(Kurt Darkholme), Wild Child, Jubilee (1010) VS Green Lantern(Hal Jordan), Green Lantern(John Stewart, Green Lantern(Guy Gardner)(1010)

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Magneto(AoA) is by far my favorite of the Rebels that I’ve tested! The Rebellion is awesome to get that upper hand in a round. The X-Men Stand Together power was used by Magneto more than any other X-Man which is fine with me. It’s weird to see a Magneto without Mental Shield haha. The only thing that I think would be cool would be a protector aspect to Reactive Toss 9. Otherwise this dude is dope.

REACTIVE TOSS 9
If an opponent’s small or medium figure moves adjacent to Magneto or a Rebel you control within 4 clear sight spaces, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 9 or higher, that figure's movement ends. Place the figure on any empty space within 3 spaces of its original placement. Tossed figures do not take any leaving engagement attacks and may only be targeted as they move into engagement with Magneto or a Rebel you control within 4 clear sight spaces.
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Old June 27th, 2020, 07:49 AM
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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

Looking stout so far.

Healthy win in the first game in what looks like a pretty fair fight, then a stomping in the second (though that GL team is pretty vulnerable to auto-wounds).

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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

Does someone actually have this figure? It is worth a pretty penny (and as someone who no longer collects 'Clix, I'm a little jealous.)

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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

All the AoA figures are out of my price range. I will be using a proxy for each

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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

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Does someone actually have this figure? It is worth a pretty penny (and as someone who no longer collects 'Clix, I'm a little jealous.)
Doubt it. But Coolstuff occasionally has some decent enough pics of their figures to use on the card, so that's what I've been using for most of these. I'd imagine most just proxy when it comes to various versions of a character.
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Old July 4th, 2020, 08:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Magneto AoA
Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Magneto AoA (340), Magneto II, Destiny, Psylocke (1020) vs .Cap, Hawkeye III, Nebula, Sub-Zero, Angel (1020)
Unit Summary
Damage: 14 wounds dealt.
Abilities: Two reactive throws.
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Magneto, Cyclops II, Sage, Iceman, Cable (1305 points) vs Apollo, Midnighter, Sasquatch, Zatanna II, Vulture (1305 points) vs.
Unit Summary
Damage: 10 wounds dealt
Abilities: Boosted a crap ton of attacks, no Reactive throw opportunities (Sasquatch too big). Rebellion 2 times.
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Magneto, Cyclops II, Sage, Sabretooth AoA, Shadowcat AoA (1225 points) vs Captain America, Ms Marvel, Scarlet Witch II, Darkseid (1225 points) vs.
Unit Summary
Damage: 10 wounds dealt.
Abilities: Reactionary throw 1 time, 2 times Revellion.
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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

I recorded results for game 3 of LV's as well, and then we did one more in addition to that to see if we could nail down a cost.

Army Test 1 (LV's game 3)
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Magneto(340), Cyclops(240), Shadowcat(185), Sage(190), Sabretooth(270) (1225)
vs.
Cap(240), Ms. Marvel(350), Darkseid(380), Scarlet Witch(255) (1225)
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Magneto(340), Cyclops(240), Sage(190), Sabretooth(270) (1040)
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Cap, Hawkeye III, Nebula, Sub-Zero, Oracle (1040)
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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

After playing 4 games together, which did feature a fair amount of luck skewed results, LV and I are in agreement a point bump of 15(340 > 355) would be sufficient to wrap this up. If people are comfortable with that, I will call for a vote in a few hours to move this to Final Editing.
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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

Oof, that's a pretty brutal w/l record. Are we sure 15 points is going to do it?

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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

Depends on if you trust LV and I, I suppose.

Looks like he's 5-3. Also some luck factors in there. Additionally, I am currently proposing we drop Cyclops II's Life down by 1, which certainly would have helped in 2 of those games where he ended with 4/5 wounds.

But yeah, I feel it's enough. I suppose you could up his roll for the Reactive Toss from 9 to 11, but I don't think anything else on his card warrants nerfing.

I'll let @LordVenoc chime in on how he feels.
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Re: The Book of Magneto (AoA) (Public Playtesting)

I mean if you break it down:

Game 1: Mags does 58% of the wounds to the other team. Keeping in mind that Psylocke is responsible for 21% based just off the one shot of Cap. 38% of the foes wounds were done in the last wound (which is a hot streak if I've ever heard one).

Game 2: This one was a loss (proving the Cy & Mags pair can go down). In this game, 23 wounds total were dealt, so Mags has dropped to a more understandable 43% of the damage output here. The early snipe hit on Vulture make a sizeable chunk here. If you exclude Vulture, that puts us at 19 wounds dealt, 7 from Magneto. So 12 wounds came elsewhere, and if I recall, the vast majority of that was Cyclops (I know Cable did nothing here)

Game 3: 10 out of 21 here. 47% of the output. Sage didn't kick in until the final 2 wounds, and I believe Sabretooth accounted for 3 total this game, so this one he did outpace Cyclops.

Game 4: 9 out of 24 wounds here. 38% And Cyclops did 41% of the total wounds. In a single attack. The other 5 wounds were still him, but they at least took time.


So yeah, there was a lot of swingy luck things going on. The pod is strong, but beatable, and will be moreso if Cyclops drops in life. Heck, I don't feel like I played the Operatives as well as I could have when I did win, but they had the big advantage of Apollo's speed letting them get the center high ground, which the Cyclops/Magneto pair took both games that they won.
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