The Book of Surtur

[Griffin]

Huh huh "back burner".

[Hahma]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Huh huh "back burner".

[Hahma]

TWILIGHT SWORD
Start the game with 1 orange Twilight Marker on this card. After taking a turn with Surtur, you may choose an opponent’s figure within 6 clear sight spaces. If the figure is not a Unique Hero or an Event Hero, remove the Twilight Marker from this card and destroy the chosen figure. If the chosen figure is a Unique Hero or Event Hero, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 9 or higher, you may remove the Twilight Marker from this card and the chosen figure receives 2 wounds, or you may place the Twilight Marker on the chosen figure’s card and that figure cannot use any special powers for the remainder of the round. At the end of each round, the Twilight Marker is returned to this Army Card. The Twilight Marker can only be removed from this card by the player controlling Surtur.

INTENSE HEAT
Immediately after placing Order Markers for each round and before rolling for initiative, you must roll one combat die for each figure adjacent to within 2 spaces of Surtur, one at a time. If a skull is rolled, the figure receives 2 wounds. Figures with the Super Strength special power only receive 1 wound, and figures with the Lava Resistant special power are not affected by Intense Heat.

I'm looking to make the above changes to this guy. I had originally had d20 roll of 9+ for Twighlight Sword but had raised it to 12, but I think it needs to come back down to 9. I don't want to go too low as making it too easy to negate a figure's power for the round wouldn't be good either, but it should be decent enough that during the course of the round he should be able to hit it once. With a 12 + he could go a whole round without hitting it and while it is obviously better to hit it on the first turn, it still can be somewhat effective if it is hit on his third turn.

I also changed Intense Heat from only affecting adjacent figures to affecting figures up to 2 spaces away, but not restricting it to 2 clear sight spaces. This guy can be like 1,000 feet tall, so his flames should be able to reach way the heck up and penetrate through walls like Heat Wave's power. Also, what I think will be cool with this power is that it affect "figures" not just opponent's figures. So DO's will have to roll for damage, and no I don't care if you have to roll the die 10 times. He's an Event Hero and this could be cool.

[IAmBatman]

That two spaces should also really help him with crowd control, which it looked like he needed from the results so far. Looks good!

[Griffin]

Yeah, good changes.

I think we all want this guy to be badass.

[Hahma]

Well besides crowd control, he needs it against that Shrink Ray bastard Brainiac who could get onto a castle wall and not be "adjacent" to be affected by Intense since Surter is borderline height of 9 or 10 and couldn't be adjacent to figures on the castle wall to have IH work against them. But considering his thematic height, I think IH should have extended range.

He is a little shorter than before after re-basing him, but he just barely goes over the line into 10th level, so that's good enough to keep him at 10 height.

[Hahma]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT SURTUR

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit too powerful or too weak.
PASS –

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS-

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS –

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS – .

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game. PASS -. He can wait until OM 3 and then charge to get within 2 spaces of opponent's figures to try to take out a bunch with Intense Heat, but opponent can try to force him to leave engagement with 1 figure to get close to a bunch of others. Twilight Sword can be used to put on wounds against hard to wound opponent's that have special defenses or to negate their power to foil their special attacks or defenses for the remainder of that round. Single huge attack is nice against mid-levels and HH's but overkill vs. squaddies.



Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 800
- Give a brief overview. . Agents won initiative for every round and allow them to get into good position, including 1 Kill Box attack for 4 wounds on him in R3 to get him to 14 wounds. He rolled poor defense in first two wounds to take 10 wounds pretty quick. Intense Heat only killed 1 Agent in 5 attempts. Kind of bad luck all around for Surtur this game.

Map: .The Broken Skyline
Units: Surtur vs. SHIELD Agents x 7 for 770 points

Spoiler Alert!

Who won and how many wounds did they have? . 8 of 21 SHIELD Agents live to win on T3R4.

Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 800
- Give a brief overview. .This time Surtur did better with initiative rolls and was 4 of 6 with Intense Heat. He also rolled better defense.
Map: . The Broken Skyline
Units: Surtur vs. SHIELD Agents x 7 for 770 points.

Spoiler Alert!

Who won and how many wounds did they have? .Surtur wins with 10 wounds on T2R6.

Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 800
-Give a brief overview. .The GCW got 8 wounds on Surtur by the end of round 1, with a 4/0 attack being especially harmful. He was 2 for 3 against them with Intense Heat at the beginning of R2, but was at 12 wounds at the beginning of T6R2 when a GCW killed him with another 4/0 attack. So he wasn't able to use Intense Heat a second time. Gorilla City Warriors are nasty vs. HH's that only have a single attack. Sure he can take one out with Twilight Sword, but they still have too many big attacks for him to keep up with and it didn't help that he whiffed twice to take half of his wounds and the GCW rolled good attacks.

Map: . The Broken Skyline
Units: Surtur vs. Gorilla City Warriors x 6 + 1 for 792 points

Spoiler Alert!

Who won and how many wounds did they have? .10 of 19 Gorilla City Warriors live to win on T6R2.

Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 800
- Give a brief overview. .Well this at least was a better showing as Surtur was 2 of 4 for Intense Heat and didn't roll such crappy defense.
Map: . The Broken Skyline
Units: Surtur vs. Gorilla City Warriors x 6 +1 for 792 points

Spoiler Alert!

Who won and how many wounds did they have? .7 of 19 GCW live to win on T4R3.

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?.YES
- What should be the unit's point value? .800
- Give a brief overview.. Surtur didn't bother trying to negate Hulk's powers as after they all engaged, Thor had most of the OM's, so Surtur used Twilight Sword to give 2 auto wounds. Intense Heat worked a couple times and put the last wound on Thor. Hulk finished Surtur with a massive 11 dice attack, but this one could have gone either way.
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: . Surtur at 800 points vs. Thor (430) and Hasbro Hulk (370) for 800 points.

Spoiler Alert!

Hulk leaped in early but then Thor came in to attack as well. Surtur ignored Hulk as he didn't want to get him mad, so he saved him for after finishing Thor but by then Hulk got pretty mad with extra wounds from Intense Heat. Surtur got Hulk up to 7 wounds but with 11 attack dice, Hulk was able to finish Surter before Surtur could finish him.


Who won and how many wounds did they have? Hulk wins with 7 wounds and wins on T3R4.

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
What should be the unit's point value? .800
Give a brief overview. .Intense Heat did some damage as did Twilight Sword. Good guys were too clustered.

Map: .The Broken Skyline
Units: .Surtur (800) vs. Iron Fist (260) Kraven (200) Luke Cage (190) and Moon Knight (150) for 800 points.

Spoiler Alert!

Moon Knight went on his card right away and waited awhile before coming back. Kraven was able to advance with Big Game Hunter so that when he had OM3 he would be able to attack Surtur. LC and IF advanced up the road but unfortunately, Surtur engaged them and was really nasty in round 2 as LC took 1 wound in R1 and then 1 more from Intense Heat between rounds. So when Surtur put 1 more wound on him on T1R2 for 3 wounds, he was able to finish him off with Twilight Sword to put final 2 wounds on him. Kraven had OM 1 for the good guys, but LC had OM's 2 and 3 and lost those turns for him and Iron Fist. Moon Knight popped in but didn't get wounds on Surtur. Kraven was able to add to the total wounds before getting killed.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Surtur wins with 8 wounds and wins on T6R4.

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
What should be the unit's point value? .800
Give a brief overview. .Intense Heat did some damage but not enough toward the end. Twilight Sword failed last 4 times with rolls of 3, 3, 5, 6. So it's not that the 9+ is too high, he just rolled really crappy and it really hurt toward the end as he needed to negate LC's powers to get rid of his special defense and IF's activation. Surtur also whiffed defense rolls vs. 3, 3 and 5 skulls to take 11 of his wounds that way.
Map: .The Broken Skyline
Units: .Surtur (800) vs. Iron Fist (260) Kraven (200) Luke Cage (190) and Moon Knight (150) for 800 points.

Spoiler Alert!

This time the heroes attacked in waves to keep from being clustered. MK got picked up right away in round 1 but he also dropped right away but onto tower to attack with height for 3 wounds vs. Surtur. Surtur then made short work of him. Meanwhile Kraven had been stalking Surtur and with OM3 he was able to attack for 3 more wounds and then got taken down a couple turns later. Surtur whiffed on a 5 skull attack from IF to get up to 11 wounds and he kept missing Twilight Sword roll to keep LC from using his special defense and also activating IF. Ultimately some bad d20 and defense rolls cost Surtur big this game, though a different strategy helped the good guys minimize IH damage potential. I imagine having special defense units will force Surtur to choose between the auto wounds or the negation of powers. But if he doesn't hit the roll until his last turn, then sometimes the negation wouldn't help him at that point, unless it was against Hulk that for sure has an OM on his card and several wounds.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Iron Fist with 3 wounds and Luke Cage with 0 wounds (1 wound on LC had been healed by IF earlier) win on T2R3

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
What should be the unit's point value? .800
Give a brief overview. Gave Surtur some ranged multi-attackers to help out vs. being swarmed by the GCW. Intense Heat put 2 wounds on Merlyn ( no SS) on 2 attempts. 1 wound on Grodd with 2 attempts. Missed Sinestro on 1 attempt and killed 2 of 3 GCW attempted against. Surtur used Twilight Sword to negate Sinestro's powers in R2 and also used TS to put 4 total wounds on Grodd. Surtur got killed by GCW on T3R4.
Map: .The Broken Skyline
Units: .Surtur (800) Punisher (180) and Kree Scouts x 6 (240) for 1220 points Vs. Gorilla City Warriors x 4 (500) Sinestro (330) Gorilla Grodd (225) and Merlyn (160) for 1215 points.

Spoiler Alert!

Merlyin only got to attack once and that was with height vs. Surtur on T1R2 but only rolled 1 skull for 2 and it was blocked. He took 2 wounds from an attack by Surtur and lived through first Intense Heat attempt but not through second attempt. Didn't want to waste an OM on him after he got wounded and was in IH range as well as Punisher's sights. Surtur negated Sinestro's powers on turn 2 of round 2 to force Sinestro to jump off castle wall for 1 wound and run back toward his SZ for his 2 turns in that round (OM's 2 and 3). Had he stayed on the tower, he was in position to be attacked by the Kree Scouts and Surtur with only a 2 defense +1 for height.
Grodd didn't have much luck this game as he missed both of his attacks against Surtur. He took 1 wound from Surtur from Intense Heat and the other 4 with two Twilight Sword rolls for 2 wounds each.
Punisher and the Kree helped to thin out the GCW, but they finished Surtur on T3R4. Surtur had some huge attack rolls vs. Sinestro to force him to burn 2 Battery Markers and Sinestro burned the other 2 with Force of Fear twice, but he only managed to put 3 wounds on Surtur with 4 FOF attacks. He did manage to put final 2 wounds on Punisher with a single FOF attack as and no more BM's anyway to attack again if he wanted to. A Kree Scout later killed Sinestro.
Kree made use of their teleportation to bring other up from SZ and they they got height and after suffering a couple losses, managed to finish off the last of the Gorilla City Warriors.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? 4 Kree Scouts live to win on T3R7.

[IAmBatman]

He's looking good at 800!

[Hahma]

Initial Test is done. I didn't bother with HH's as Brainiac is the only one at that cost. I did do 4 Squad tests and 4 Army tests with him though.

[tcglkn]

Awesome work. Pre-yea to playtesting at 800 points!

[IAmBatman]

Looks great! Pre-yea for playtesting at 800.

[SirGalahad]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Looks great! Pre-yea for playtesting at 800.