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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.

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Old May 16th, 2020, 11:42 PM
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (VOTE for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Waiting for Initial)

Quick question...if you put this figure on a figure you control and that figure is destroyed...is the symbiote also destroyed? Same if you take control of an opponents figure and attack a figure with Counter Strike. If the counter strike destroys the opponents figure does the symbiote also get destroyed?

EDIT: Also my son just saw this and got really excited to draft Hulk and Venom together and make his own Venom-Hulk.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old May 17th, 2020, 01:03 PM
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Waiting for Initial)

It’s not mechanically destroyed but without a way to return to the battlefield, it is functionally destroyed.

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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Design)

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Also he doesn't come off a dead card. He'd go down with Merlyn in the scenario you're outlining.
Nevermind I think I found my answer.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Design)

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I'd probably try a Cap/Merlyn/Robot build to try to maximize him on your own hero, and another focused on carrying/podding him over and using him to take out an Order Marker hub/key figure. But, yeah, those limits are all solid ones. Probably more 200ish, then, or less, since the 5 Life don't matter much if you just kill his host.
Cool. That's more where my train of thought was going.
I'd actually consider a Bloodshot build. Multiattacking that likes high attack, easy to boost with soldier stuff (like Cap and Sgt Rock) and has the survivability between his nanites and decent defense/life to get good mileage out of the symbiote.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Waiting for Initial)

Yeah, guys like Punisher and Bloodshot are for sure on my radar.

Probably gonna be looking to test this one against somebody this weekend, because I think it's a valuable one to have a real opponent for.
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Old May 25th, 2020, 03:13 PM
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Waiting for Initial)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Venom Symbiote

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Venom @195, Captain America (Steve), Bloodshot, Sgt. Rock (870) vs Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Spider-Man (Peter), Tigra (870)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Venom @175, Bloodshot, Sgt. Rock (630) vs Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Swordsman (610)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Venom @175, Bloodshot, Sgt. Rock (630) vs Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Swordsman (610)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Venom @175, Robot, Commander Rogers, Shocker (805) vs Cyclops (I), Jean Grey, Angel (Warren), Mystique (I), Jubilee, Yukio (805)
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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Venom @175, Robot, Commander Rogers, Shocker (805) vs Captain America (Steve), Sgt. Rock, Bloodshot, Guile (805)
Spoiler Alert!


THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Ended up soloscaping this after all, because I had no idea how this initial was gonna go and didn't want to ask someone for a bunch of games.

The "can't choose the same Host twice" restriction we put in there was definitely a good one - makes for some interesting decision-making. He can deny the enemy a key piece for a while, but he's not exactly an easy button for it. OM placements can be tricky with him.

I don't know if the numbers are 100% there yet, but I feel like they're workable as a starting point.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Initial Posted)

2 wins and 2 losses at 175 looks good to me. Pre-Yea to Public testing at that cost.

I know you didn't use Star-Lord here, but I am correct in assuming this guy would turn off his bonus if you put him on one of your own cards since you have 2 Symbiotes then right?
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Initial Posted)

Yeah, he's not compatible with Star-Lord's bonus for that reason.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (Initial Posted)

Let's send Venom to public testing. Curious to get other impressions here.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (VOTE for Public Testing)

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Re: The Book of Venom (Symbiote) (VOTE for Public Testing)

These look like interesting games. How did he feel in general? Did venomozing your own figures feel better than your opponent? Or vice verse? Curious what the actual optimal strategy is here.

Yea either way. More info will come the more testing is done!
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