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Old November 10th, 2010, 11:24 PM
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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

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Not to stir the pot after it already has been by so many people... but... before you call HSers who want to have more involvement "self-entitles a$$es," it was the so called "inner-sanctum" who already self-entitled themselves as the "future of Heroscape" first. Not to mention, WotC and Hasbro were 1) selling their products and 2) selling them to more than just HSers.com. The C3V is creating customs for HSers.com, but will not let HSers be included?

The arguments you make are valid when in perspective of a corperation, but this is a custom project, based from the community, for the community, and if you're claiming to be the future of this community, has no right leaving the community out of involvement.

That said, there isn't really any reason to complain, because if I don't like your project, I just don't use your customs. Simple as that.

Good luck to all in all of your endeavors.
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I have never used this smilie before because it seems rude but...

Your post is erroneous in its statements. These guys asked the community if C3V was the future; they didn't claim it was.
Also it would be ridiculous to assume they wouldn't be the inner sanctum of the project they started. They have the right to it, others don't.

People can't complain that there is no community involvement because there is. When people complain it is because they can't be involved as much as they think they have the right to be- that is called entitlement.

Your closing sentences are right on though. I wish others would share that view.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 11:29 PM
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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

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And thanks everyone for picking things I say out of context... should I repeat?

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That said, there isn't really any reason to complain, because if I don't like your project, I just don't use your customs. Simple as that.

Good luck to all in all of your endeavors.
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I'm not attacking your project. Good day.
Sorry kaiyu, I just tired of people saying there's no community involvement and all I see is community involvement. I did not mean to call you out, because I respect what you have done for this community with your Heroes of Space RPG (which looks awesome BTW); but when you said you do not see HSer involvement it rubbed me the wrong way.

I apologize for my passion, but I do have passion for this game and the people trying to preserve it.

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Old November 10th, 2010, 11:36 PM
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And thanks everyone for picking things I say out of context... should I repeat?

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That said, there isn't really any reason to complain, because if I don't like your project, I just don't use your customs. Simple as that.

Good luck to all in all of your endeavors.
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I'm not attacking your project. Good day.
Sorry kaiyu, I just tired of people saying there's no community involvement and all I see is community involvement. I did not mean to call you out, because I respect what you have done for this community with your Heroes of Space RPG (which looks awesome BTW); but when you said you do not see HSer involvement it rubbed me the wrong way.

I apologize for my passion, but I do have passion for this game and the people trying to preserve it.
Ditto for me , kaiyu. This is the second time now I have expressed myself poorly on this topic. Maybe I'll sit it out. Besides I know the C3v guys don't need me to defend them.
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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

Spoiler Alert!

This doesn't seem to be the correct place for this discussion - Could we perhaps move it to a different thread? (The "Design team" doesn't really have the power to change according to the suggestions I'm making)

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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

The previous two members nominate the next 10 nominees (not themselves). The public then votes on those 10.

The thing about your last suggestion is that at the end, it is way too late to make any changes. It would invalidate all the playtesting that had been done, for one. But at the beginning, you can post any idea you have - including power ideas, figure ideas, synergy, mini choices, or anything else.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 11:59 PM
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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

kaiyu0707 I appreciate what you're saying in your closing sentences - I just wish you would've thought of that before bothering to post the rest. If you're not really concerned with the project, why come here and bag on it? Just seems silly to me.

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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread



This has already been discussed to the point that it required the thread being locked.

Maybe that thread should be unlocked, so that these opinions can continue being expressed there instead of swallowing another C3V thread.

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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:07 AM
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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

Hmm ... maybe we need a C3V HR department to throw all of your complaints in ...

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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

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The previous two members nominate the next 10 nominees (not themselves). The public then votes on those 10.

The thing about your last suggestion is that at the end, it is way too late to make any changes. It would invalidate all the playtesting that had been done, for one. But at the beginning, you can post any idea you have - including power ideas, figure ideas, synergy, mini choices, or anything else.
Grey Owl I do have a question.

Hopefully it may clear things up. Will the inner sanctum publicly say we are working on insert unit ?

For instance, will the inner sanctum list units that will go through the process like:

We will be working on:

Skeleton squad
Lizardfolk Hero
Raptorian Hero
Ranged Viper Squad

Do you have any suggestions?



Or will the design crew sift through our posted suggestions for things that they would like to try and determine how to proceed from there?

I am a little confused on how things will progress from the suggestion thread.

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Hmm ... maybe we need a C3V HR department to throw all of your complaints in ...
I nominate IMax to be in charge of that.



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Not to be rude, but wouldn't it be more intriguing to see how all this inside workings work? The other threads can be ignored, the PM deleted. Plus, to get a more well-rounded unit, shouldn't ideas be able to come from anyone, not just a select few?
You can see how the inner working happen when a unit gets released. The Mods move the whole thread to the public area.
Sorry I missed this post. It fills in a big chunk of questions I had, and I merely skipped over it. Wouldn't it be more prudent for some hard-core members, not part of the play-test group be able to see, even a little bit, before it is released, for some... beta testing?

Kaiyu has a valid point however, if others don't like it, they/we don't have to use it. I will apologize for my incesent questions, and what probably seems like inane pestering. I am just uninformed on the ways of the C3G.
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The previous two members nominate the next 10 nominees (not themselves). The public then votes on those 10.

The thing about your last suggestion is that at the end, it is way too late to make any changes. It would invalidate all the playtesting that had been done, for one. But at the beginning, you can post any idea you have - including power ideas, figure ideas, synergy, mini choices, or anything else.
Grey Owl I do have a question.

Hopefully it may clear things up. Will the inner sanctum publicly say we are working on insert unit ?

For instance, will the inner sanctum list units that will go through the process like:

We will be working on:

Skeleton squad
Lizardfolk Hero
Raptorian Hero
Ranged Viper Squad

Do you have any suggestions?



Or will the design crew sift through our posted suggestions for things that they would like to try and determine how to proceed from there?

I am a little confused on how things will progress from the suggestion thread.
The design team will work on what they decide to work on when they decide to without directly informing or consulting the public. They'll take public suggestions and ideas seriously though, and glean what they want from them.
It's important to know, when posting ideas in the Brainstorming thread, that those ideas are no longer "your ideas" at that point, they're C3V ideas.

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Re: C3V Public Announcements Thread

You people are acting far too highstrung and dramatic for my taste. How about we try to remember why you guys are doing this. To play Heroscape. And why do you play Heroscape? To have fun. Because of all the needless tension and flaring tempers, you're turning something intended for fun into a bloodbath. I'm shocked by the behavior of the people involved in this C3V project so far. Go for a walk. Spend time with your family. I really don't think Heroscape is something worth this much stress in your life.
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