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Old September 18th, 2014, 10:25 AM
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Re: The Book of Mentallo

I'm less worried about Glyph abuse. They are designed to give competitive advantages.

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Re: The Book of Mentallo

Hmm, after giving this some thought, I think correcting Master Motivator to an OM reveal is better. I wouldnt really consider drafting Mentallo in either a Mutant army or a Criminal army with the OM reveal.

I definitely would consider Drafting him in a Common army though (Shield snipers etc)

Master Motivator can still be abused with Ms Marvel pretty bad with no OM reveal.

Then again, I guess Ms Marvel and Mentallo can get bad without an OM reveal on Mentallo as well.... hmmm
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Re: The Book of Mentallo

It seems clear that both units need some addressing, so let's address Mentallo first. I propose we add an Order Marker restriction to Mentallo's Telepathic Suggestion. We can retest and readjust points as necessary (eventually).

We clearly have a ton of work to do on retesting and reevaluating units. I, for one, after I finish my two current LDs, will be halting all future design work until we get a significant amount of this addressed. I hope other Heroes, Sidekicks, and Allies will join me in this focus.

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Re: The Book of Mentallo

I really appreciate the way C3G is taking the competitive stuff seriously. The reality is that many, many people have enjoyed C3G for years without this stuff rearing its head. That the C3G heroes are willing to accommodate us in the development structure, and commit so much resources to hammering out these corner cases that competitive players can exploit, speaks volumes to C3G's commitment to quality.

I do like the idea of putting an OM reveal on Master Motivator powers as well. (To reiterate, I think Mentallo is quite playable with the OM reveal.) I started here since, obviously, this is just one card and it's easier to change one card than multiple cards. (FWIW, if you put an OM reveal in the Master Motivator language, then you can get rid of the "that does not have the Master Motivator Power" bit at the end. So it doesn't really make the power any longer.)
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To reiterate, I think Mentallo is quite playable with the OM reveal. I started here since, obviously, this is just one card and it's easier to change one card than multiple cards.
I still think he'd have to be re-tested. I mean if he is playable with the OM reveal in only some very specific builds like with Magneto II and Destiny, then he's not worth much in other than very specific builds. I mean, 3 defense and 4 life with an attack of 3 and range of 5 is pretty whimpy to have to toss a lot of OM's on to get any value.

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Re: The Book of Mentallo

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It seems clear that both units need some addressing, so let's address Mentallo first. I propose we add an Order Marker restriction to Mentallo's Telepathic Suggestion. We can retest and readjust points as necessary (eventually).

We clearly have a ton of work to do on retesting and reevaluating units. I, for one, after I finish my two current LDs, will be halting all future design work until we get a significant amount of this addressed. I hope other Heroes, Sidekicks, and Allies will join me in this focus.
I believe @A3n and @TrollBrute are on abstain right now, as is @Lord Pyre . That leaves @tcglkn @SirGalahad and @John n139 as @quozl has already pre-yea'd.

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Re: The Book of Mentallo

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Are you keeping a list of all the retesting we're going to be doing?
No. But someone definitely should.

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Where you heading to Bats?
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