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Old September 22nd, 2021, 02:37 AM
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Re: Out-there Heaven (Movie, TV, and Video Game Characters)

Just piecing this all together.

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NAME = BEN 10
SECRET IDENTITY = BEN TENNYSON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = STUDENT
PERSONALITY = BRASH

SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 4?

LIFE = 3

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 2
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = ???

UNSTABLE OMNITRIX 10

At the beginning of the round, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll an 10 or lower, your opponent may choose a Unique Hero in your army that is not on the battlefield with the secret identity Ben Tennyson. If you roll a 11 or higher you may choose a Unique Hero in your army that is not on the battlefield with the secret identity Ben Tennyson. You may put Ben 10 on the card of the chosen hero, and the hero wherever Ben 10 was located on the battlefield. Any order markers on Ben 10 get moved to the chosen hero's card.

BADDEST KID TO EVER SAVE THE DAY
If you win initiative, you must move an unrevealed Order Marker from another Army Card you control to this Army Card or an Army Card with the secret identity Ben Tennyson.

LIMITED TRANSFORMATION 10
At the end of the round, if Ben 10 is not on the battlefield, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 10 or lower switch Ben 10 out with the figure of the card he is on. If you roll an 11 or higher you may choose to either leave Ben 10 on the army card or to switch him out with the figure of the card he is on. If you roll a 1 or lower, switch Ben 10 out with the figure of the card he is on and during the next round Ben 10 may not use his Unstable Omnitrix power.
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NAME = FOUR ARMS
SECRET IDENTITY = BEN TENNYSON

SPECIES = TETRAMAND
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = FIGHTER
PERSONALITY = BRASH

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6?

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = ???

BOND OF THE OMNITRIX

This card may not be drafted into your army unless you have drafted Ben 10 into your army. If this figure is destroyed or taken off of the battlefield, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 14 or lower, move all wounds on this card to the card of Ben 10. If you roll a 15 or higher this figure is destroyed or removed from the battlefield as normal.

FOUR-ARMED PUMMEL
Four Arms may attack an additional time if he rolls at least one skull, rolling one less attack die if he did not wound an enemy figure with his previous attack. Four Arms may not attack more than four times in one turn.

DUAL THUNDERCLAP SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 4
Choose 4 spaces in a straight line from Four Arms. All figures on or adjacent to spaces in the line are affected by this attack. Each skull rolled for this attack counts as an additional hit. Each figure rolls defense dice separately. You may only use this Special Attack once per round.

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Old September 22nd, 2021, 10:18 AM
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Re: Out-there Heaven (Movie, TV, and Video Game Characters)

Pretty solid! One note is that we usually avoid wording like this:
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This card may not be drafted into your army unless you have drafted Ben 10 into your army.
We'd probably do it more like this:
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You may draft Four Arms with any other Ben Tennyson figures that are not Tetramands. Four Arms does not start the game on the battlefield, and cannot be placed on the battlefield by any means except a special power on the card of a Human Ben Tennyson.
I'm also not sure this version encourages you to bring too many aliens. I'm guessing I'd probably just bring Ben + one alien most of the time, but maybe that's not a problem? Ben is usually rolling with only a handful of aliens each episode, so him just picking one and running with it for a battle makes sense.
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Old September 22nd, 2021, 10:58 AM
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I'm also not sure this version encourages you to bring too many aliens. I'm guessing I'd probably just bring Ben + one alien most of the time, but maybe that's not a problem? Ben is usually rolling with only a handful of aliens each episode, so him just picking one and running with it for a battle makes sense.
Yeah, Four Arms is generally a strong character, but not all of the aliens are on the same level. You could have Four Arms and Grey Matter or Stinkfly. They won't all be high point costs, and I would think that the fact they can only be drafted with Ben 10 would bring the cost down a little bit.
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Old September 22nd, 2021, 11:03 AM
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Four Arms may use his normal attack one additional time. If Four Arms did not inflict any wounds with his first two attacks, he may use his normal attack 2 additional times.
Just a different take. Let me know which one you prefer.
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Old September 22nd, 2021, 11:04 AM
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For that one, I'm not sure if it should be if he inflicted wounds or if he didn't
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Old September 22nd, 2021, 11:15 AM
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I'm also not sure this version encourages you to bring too many aliens. I'm guessing I'd probably just bring Ben + one alien most of the time, but maybe that's not a problem? Ben is usually rolling with only a handful of aliens each episode, so him just picking one and running with it for a battle makes sense.
Yeah, Four Arms is generally a strong character, but not all of the aliens are on the same level. You could have Four Arms and Grey Matter or Stinkfly. They won't all be high point costs, and I would think that the fact they can only be drafted with Ben 10 would bring the cost down a little bit.
I guess it's more just that there's not really any encouragement to bring more than one alien? We learned a lot from the first Beast Boy design - the idea was that you'd bring lots of different animal transformations for him, and he'd switch between them as the battle went on. But in reality, the best use for him is just to bring a single animal form (and usually not even bother with the Metahuman version at all.) There's just no incentive to spend points on a bunch of figures that are never going to be on the battlefield most of the time.

Here, bringing multiple aliens actually gives you a downside, since it gives the enemy the ability to pick the wrong alien at the start of the round.

That's where I was headed with the "removed from the game" line at the end of my version of Limited Transformation. If an alien is gone once you use it once, that encourages you to bring more aliens to transform into.

We could also maybe give the aliens really low life (like 3 max?) and have them be unusable once they're destroyed.
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Old September 22nd, 2021, 11:19 AM
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We could also maybe give the aliens really low life (like 3 max?) and have them be unusable once they're destroyed.
That could work, all I'm concerned about is that the aliens would feel as strong as they are. Like, I wouldn't want Four Arms going down in a hit or two, but I guess the defense could make up for that.
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Old September 22nd, 2021, 11:25 AM
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Or maybe something like this instead.
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BOND OF THE OMNITRIX
You may draft Four Arms with any other Ben Tennyson figures that are not Tetramands. Four Arms does not start the game on the battlefield, and cannot be placed on the battlefield by any means except a special power on the card of a Human Ben Tennyson. If this figure would be removed from the battlefield or destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. Subtract 1 from your roll for each wound marker on this card. If you roll a 10 or lower, this figure is destroyed. If you roll an 11 or higher, place this figure on its Army Card.
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“The arrow relies on the bow, and the bow relies on the arrow, but they are not tied together."

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NAME = JACK
SECRET IDENTITY =

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SAMURAI
PERSONALITY = STOIC / DRIVEN

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 7
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = ???

MYSTICAL KATANA

Roll 2 additional attack dice against an adjacent figure. Instead of attacking with Jack's normal attack, you may destroy any or all figures adjacent to Jack with exactly 1 Life remaining.

THE HEAT OF BATTLE
While Jack is engaged, the most wounds he can take from an attack is one. When rolling defense dice against an adjacent normal attack, if you roll more shields than the attacker rolls skulls, the attacking figure receives one wound.

GO THE DISTANCE
Once per round, if Jack would be destroyed by receiving wounds, he instead takes no damage.

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I really dig it. The katana power is so cool.
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Oof that's brutal.

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Yes.
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