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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Kirigi - THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them. ? - MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game. ? - BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding. ? - SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit too powerful or too weak. ? - POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any. ? - FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play. ? - FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against. ? - DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting. ? - USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable. ? - STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game. ? Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test - Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes - What should be the unit's point value? I'm liking 165 for now - Give a brief overview. He's very tough, usually only taking 1 wound per attack, but struggles a bit offensively.
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_____________________________________________________________ Squad Test - Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes - What should be the unit's point value? 150? - Give a brief overview. Kirigi holds up well to multiple attacks, usually minimizing the damage, but has trouble taking out more than one squaddie per turn. He whiffed twice on attacks though, which I feel made him look worse than he is. Map: X Marks the Spot Units: Kirigi v. Street Thugs x2 (150)
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_____________________________________________________________ Squad Test - Does it pass, Yes or No? . - What should be the unit's point value? . - Give a brief overview. . Map: X Marks the Spot Units: Kirigi v. Hand Ninja x2 (170)
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_____________________________________________________________ Army Test - Does it pass, Yes or No? . - What should be the unit's point value? . - Give a brief overview. . Map: . Units: .
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_____________________________________________________________ Army Test - Does it pass, Yes or No? . - What should be the unit's point value? . - Give a brief overview. . Map: . Units: .
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Last edited by Margloth; June 14th, 2012 at 03:55 PM. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
Don't know the guy here and his powers look like they've been thoroughly vetted already, so I'll just chime in to say I'm happy to see an Undead Ninja!
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
I'm amending Kirigi's Rope Knife to be a "if he was not engaged at the start of the turn" power, ala Spider-Man's Webslinger.
With just a "not engaged" restriction, he could easily Phantom Walk away and rope knife figures to death, given his resilience. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
Looking 170ish to me so far. Looks good!
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
Yeah, he's looking pretty good so far around 170. Thugs were on a optimal map for them and if he didn't roll good, it could have been closer than it showed. But Thugs aren't really 75 points w/o bonding, so there's that. But 4 attacks/turn is still a lot to go against for a short ranged unit like Kirigi. Though unlike others, he will only take 1 wound at a time.
Did good vs. Ninja and in HH. Again, Ninja aren't 85 w/o bonding, but vs. a short ranged unit, they can fare okay. Kirigi might be able to tear up some two man squads like the Skrull Warriors or even the Lex Corps Security. 50% chance of auto wounding some figures like Flash, GL, Spidey etc. is nice to have for sure. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
In case you guys couldn't tell, I've kind of been putting this guy off. Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but I didn't have much fun with him.
He's not really a very important character, so maybe I'm being overly critical, but not having fun with an Undead Ninja seems like a bit of a fail to me. Plus, I never really liked Rope Knife no matter how I tried to tweak it. Originally it was too powerful, now it's too easy to counter. I'm gonna think on it and probably proceed with Ms. Marvel for now until I come up with something. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
Maybe it's because I've seen the character before or because I have the really cool sculpt for her, but I'm muuuuch more excited to see Ms. Marvel moving forward.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
I wonder if some sort of healing power wouldn't make this guy more interesting (seems justified in the bio) or some sort of synergy with the Hand beyond just the bonding (he seems like he could be a leader type for them??)?
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
If nobody else is interested in this one, and everyone's OK with it, I might grab it to proxy after Ms. Marvel is wrapped up in order to help that Antagonists Assemble wave stay whole.
Also, the write up here seems really solid to me and lines up with what I've read about the character on Wiki. The only changes I'd make would be to change the last two power titles to: Kyoketsu Shogi (the Japanese name for the Rope Knife) and Healing Meditation And I'd also change the mechanics on the Healing Meditation power slightly, to something like this: HEALING MEDITATION If Kirigi receives two or more wounds from a single attack, but is not destroyed, you may immediately remove up to two of those wounds. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
I'll do better than that. I'm going to give you control over the SP and let you run with this guy.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
Cool, I just updated it with your changes and cleaned up the text from what Margloth had, using CAPS where they should be and getting rid of the Bolded stuff.
Will work on the initial when I can. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Re: The Book of Kirigi - Designing
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