Scenario for 1v1 maps

[Heroscaper 101]

Legendary Trials consists of many challenges. Tireless Mode consists of 2 games, 1v1, 350 points, and the theme is Army of Two. Survival Mode consists of 4 players, 1v1, 600 points, and the theme is Heroes Only: Large - Huge. Endless Mode consists of 6 players, 1v1, 450 points, and the theme is Uniques Only . Onslaught Mode consists of 8 players, 1v1, the theme is Revenge of the Titans, player A gets only 850 points, he can only get small or medium figures, player B gets only 1250 points and he can only get huge figures . Ruthless Onslaught Mode consists of 10 players, 1v1, 250 points, the theme is Reinforcements/ 1 army card for reinforcements for both player a and player b.

[superfrog]

Let me get this straight.

One player (Player A) brings a single army. The other player (Player B) brings multiple armies that are the same point cost as Player A's only army.

If Player A wins, whatever figures are left fight a new army from Player B.

How in the world is Player A supposed to win?

In Ruthless Onslaught Mode, Player B gets 25000 total points, to go against Player A's 2500 points. This isn't just like a hard scenario that takes a bunch of good strategy to win. You've just made it impossible for Player A to win. Throw the best player in the world as Player A and a first grader as Player B, and Player B will win handily.

If you want a progressive scenario like this, check out the scenarios from the D&D Master set. That's a fun and balanced campaign.

[Sir Heroscape]

Lol...good luck surviving even just ONE 2500 point game. If someone wanted to win and obliterate the other just think of 2500pts of 4th Mass, and then vomit. 2500pts is an insane amount for Heroscape and you could practically fit every unit into the game just between 2 armies.

[Heroscaper 101]

Originally Posted by superfrog

Let me get this straight.

One player (Player A) brings a single army. The other player (Player B) brings multiple armies that are the same point cost as Player A's only army.

If Player A wins, whatever figures are left fight a new army from Player B.

How in the world is Player A supposed to win?

In Ruthless Onslaught Mode, Player B gets 25000 total points, to go against Player A's 2500 points. This isn't just like a hard scenario that takes a bunch of good strategy to win. You've just made it impossible for Player A to win. Throw the best player in the world as Player A and a first grader as Player B, and Player B will win handily.

If you want a progressive scenario like this, check out the scenarios from the D&D Master set. That's a fun and balanced campaign.

This is a work in progress, the object of this game is to have fun.

[Astroking112]

I would still suggest decreasing the amount of points that the other player has. If Player A takes Kato Katsuro and Ashigaru, for example, Player B could easily make a 250-point army that is meant to assassinate Kato and then clean up the rest with their next 250 points... Nevermind having a full 500 points to work with.

[Heroscaper 101]

Originally Posted by Astroking112

I would still suggest decreasing the amount of points that the other player has. If Player A takes Kato Katsuro and Ashigaru, for example, Player B could easily make a 250-point army that is meant to assassinate Kato and then clean up the rest with their next 250 points... Nevermind having a full 500 points to work with.

This is for fun, only do Onslaught or Ruthless Onslaught if you want a challenge.

[superfrog]

Originally Posted by Heroscaper 101

I might make a limit for figures, for these games and I might make it 32 figure limit for the maximum. You may protect Kato Katsuro by not putting him in battle for 2 games. There is only one Kato Katsuro, may not want to make it easy for Kato Katsuro to be assassinated easily.

But then you'll lose. Ashigaru are only good with Kato Katsuro. If you don't have Kato, all of your Ashigaru will die in the first game, and then the second game will just be Kato. He's useless without Ashigaru, and so it won't even be close.

I think you need to take Astro's advice and drop the points of the side that gets to bring a new army every time (Player B). Otherwise, this scenario idea will never be anywhere close to balanced.

[Heroscaper 101]

Originally Posted by superfrog

But then you'll lose. Ashigaru are only good with Kato Katsuro. If you don't have Kato, all of your Ashigaru will die in the first game, and then the second game will just be Kato. He's useless without Ashigaru, and so it won't even be close.

I think you need to take Astro's advice and drop the points of the side that gets to bring a new army every time (Player B). Otherwise, this scenario idea will never be anywhere close to balanced.

his is for fun, only do Onslaught or Ruthless Onslaught if you want a challenge.

[Astroking112]

I think that it's more important to lower the points of the player getting to bring multiple armies than it is to lower the points of both sides together. Since one side is getting multiple armies, each of those armies should at least be weaker than the other player's army.

[superfrog]

I don't think you understand. Player A needs to have more points than Player B has per army. Maybe something like this:

Spoiler Alert!

Tireless Mode
Player A: one 800 point army
Player B: two 500 point armies

Survival Mode
Player A: one 1500 point army
Player B: four 500 point armies

Endless Mode
Player A: one 2100 point army
Player B: six 500 point armies

Onslaught Mode
Player A: one 2600 point army
Player B: eight 500 point armies

Ruthless Onslaught Mode
Player A: one 3000 point army
Player B: ten 500 point armies

Even then, I don't think that would be very fun. I'd rather just play multiple normal games.

[Heroscaper 101]

Originally Posted by superfrog

I don't think you understand. Player A needs to have more points than Player B has per army. Maybe something like this:

Spoiler Alert!

Tireless Mode
Player A: one 800 point army
Player B: two 500 point armies

Survival Mode
Player A: one 1500 point army
Player B: four 500 point armies

Endless Mode
Player A: one 2100 point army
Player B: six 500 point armies

Onslaught Mode
Player A: one 2600 point army
Player B: eight 500 point armies

Ruthless Onslaught Mode
Player A: one 3000 point army
Player B: ten 500 point armies

Even then, I don't think that would be very fun. I'd rather just play multiple normal games.

I made some changes to those modes.

Spoiler Alert!

Tireless Mode
Player A: one 350 point army
Player B: one 350 point army


Survival Mode
Player A: one 600 point army
Player B: one 600 point army

Endless Mode
Player A: one 450 point army
Player B: one 450 point army

Onslaught Mode
Player A: one 850 point army
Player B: one 1250 point army

Ruthless Onslaught Mode
Player A: one 250 point army
Player B: one 250 point army

Is this ok with you, thinking about adding prizes, so everyone can go home happy.

[superfrog]

What do you mean by winning a prize? What are the prizes?

Also, you just took my suggestions and screwed over any semblance of balance that was there. I don't particularly care, but your changes are not an improvement.