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Old August 7th, 2018, 11:55 AM
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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

Agreed (with quozl). I think this conversation is more in response to Spidey's suggestion to crank the power level up some, but it seems like the consensus is that we're good as is.

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Old August 7th, 2018, 12:10 PM
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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

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Scott's a better leader than Chuck in the comics, so I wouldn't be overly worried about that possibility being reflected in the game.
At that stage, though, what exactly would Xavier's purpose be, particularly given how iconic he is. Plus, his Mutant synergy is already strong - I'd question how much of a better leader you could be without moving horribly into power creep and brokenness.
Sage hasn't replaced Xavier, because the two encourage different kinds of builds. As long as you keep them different in style, you can make as many kick-ass mutant leaders as you want, and Professor X will always have a place. Psychic Defense X impacts the way he plays nearly as much as Mutant Mind Link does, which creates a lot of room for bonding leaders that differentiate themselves from him.

Like I said, though, perfectly happy with the design as it stands.
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Old August 7th, 2018, 01:11 PM
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What if only one of the two chosen figures could attack? That would limit him, plus it would feel kind of strategic; attacking while getting more of your guys into the right position.

I like that. Even if not for this it's a rather unique power we haven't tapped yet.


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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

Maybe even move 3, attack with one. That would make him much different and real dangerous with Mutants with static powers.
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What if only one of the two chosen figures could attack? That would limit him, plus it would feel kind of strategic; attacking while getting more of your guys into the right position.

I was thinking along the same lines after reading Spidey's Danger Room training comment. If he ends up coming in too strong as is, I would consider a change of one figure moves but does not attack, and one figure attacks but down not move. Then of course Cyclopes himself still gets his turn. That seems like some coordinated Danger Room training tactics to me.
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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

Considering Angel can move people around and doesn't really want/need to attack, and Beast wants to close the distance so he can Negotiate, but has a melee attack that is useless until he does engages, Jean Grey can use her power to move her own teammates up, and Colossus can throw Wolverine at people, I'd be leery of having too many free move/no attack mutant activations per turn. That could result in some sling shot type chain reactions where one mutant starts in one start zone and ends in the other start zone on one turn.
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That sounds awesome.
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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

Iím interested to see how his playtesting goes with his current stats and power set, I just feel on paper he is going to be worth more then the 230.
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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

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Considering Angel can move people around and doesn't really want/need to attack, and Beast wants to close the distance so he can Negotiate, but has a melee attack that is useless until he does engages, Jean Grey can use her power to move her own teammates up, and Colossus can throw Wolverine at people, I'd be leery of having too many free move/no attack mutant activations per turn. That could result in some sling shot type chain reactions where one mutant starts in one start zone and ends in the other start zone on one turn.

That's a great point I had neglected to see. However I stand by my statement that even if not for Mutants...this is type of leadership that needs to happen somewhere.
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Iím interested to see how his playtesting goes with his current stats and power set, I just feel on paper he is going to be worth more then the 230.
He feels pretty close to Professor X to me, which in hindsight could be undercosted. Excited to see where he turns out too.

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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

OK, glad you at least read my comments over and it seemed to spark alot of discussion, which is always good! Secondly, after reading yours and Bats comments, I went back and re-read his card. I totally missed that he took a turn first! I agree that three turns (even if two only allowed partial move) would be too much and cause him to replace Prof. X. I do think that it is really interesting that he will actually work better with Wolverine than Prof. X since he can use but doesn't rely on the X marker.
Which brings me to my last thought, an X-Men/Force Leader Wolvie should either also have this power or tweak it to be like what I suggested, without Wolvie taking a full turn.

Last thing, I really like that extra X power. If this is to be the 90's Cyclops, he should work well with Wolverine. They have tension, but always had respect. I'd suggest that as your first tweak if you need one.

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Re: The Book of Cyclops (Scott Summers) (II) (Vote for Initi

I think it's more 2000s Cyclops than 90s Cyclops.

I have a couple Wolverines in my workshopping thread (one that's sort of post-Schism-inflienced, especially Jason Aaron's Wolverine and the X-Men, and one X-Force one), but neither works quite like that.
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