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Re: [Pod 2] Nahiri, Fury in Stone
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Also, so far out of 8 unit designs, 2 of them have relevant abilities with a size restriction (Dienekes and Ozuul), so I don't even think that her ability would be too limited just within the set. When drafting armies with just the master set, I think it would actually be fairly common for her to be facing at least one of them. Compare this to an ability which protected against ranged special attacks, which would currently have 0 utility in the set (even if the ability is still more generally useful outside the set, which in my opinion actually makes the problem worse). My vote is for an Icarian warrior, but at this point I'd still be interested in hearing other ideas as well. Last edited by Captain Stupendous; May 16th, 2020 at 02:59 PM. |
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Re: [Pod 2] Nahiri, Fury in Stone
The difference between those and hers is that they say they work on 90% of the set - her power says she's immune to just those two powers.
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The way I see it is that a secondary power with limited usage in this box is fine so long as it doesn't define the unit or make them unsatisfying without additional expansions. We should definitely avoid something as overt as Grimnak, but a power that gets even more interesting when expansions are thrown in is definitely something within the scope of a Master Set. Now, we don't want a lot of powers like that, of course, and there's no telling what other opportunities will present themselves for the remaining units that we have to design (conversely, we don't know if any other characters will end up using small/medium restrictions). I'm just throwing that out there for consideration. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Also, I wasn't trying to make a direct comparison between the utility of Katryn's power and Ozuul or Deineke's power. I was just trying to point out that Katryn's power would already work against 1/4 of the units that have been designed so far, which within the context of the set would be more useful than an ability that made her untargetable by non-adjacent special attacks, which would currently have 0 utility (and contribute more to her point cost). Last edited by Captain Stupendous; May 16th, 2020 at 07:32 PM. |
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Re: [Pod 2] Nahiri, Fury in Stone
I'm just not a big fan of size changing as a mechanic in classic Heroscape, especially in a Master Set. Comparing to the "theme" of Drake's katana is not doing it any favors in my book, either.
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Re: [Pod 2] Nahiri, Fury in Stone
How many "choose a target" SAs are there? Astro's arguments RE: Grimnak has persuaded me down, but I still think if we go the SA route it's worth considering. Could also jsut give her an autoshield vs SAs.
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If we do settle on her theme as a loyal Icarian Dragon-worshiper, it would seem strange to me to give her an ability that made her more effective at fighting against dragons. Rolling an autoshield vs SAs seems very much like a signature characteristic of the Nhah Scirh as it represents their antagonism toward dragons, which I think is the opposite of the theme we're currently exploring for this unit. That's not to say that we shouldn't explore a different thematic direction for the figure; just that the resistance to SAs seems a little at odds with the current direction and justification for her Majestic Inferno ability. |
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That's fair, you're right about that RE: theme of her being a dragon server.
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If you're giving her the adjacent-explosion attack I don't think you need to make the other power also have to do with the blade.
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Re: [Pod 2] Nahiri, Fury in Stone
I agree. Since Majestic Inferno SA doesn't directly reference her sword, I think that using another power to give a specific name to her weapon as the "Dragonheart Blade" is a nice thematic touch, but by no means necessary. So far though, I don't think I've seen any other suggestions for a second power other than Necroblade's proposed resistance to huge figures? To me that seems a little unthematic because I don't see why an ally of dragons would have an ability that makes her more effective at fighting against dragons, but I'm definitely open to exploring more options for her second power.
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Re: [Pod 2] Nahiri, Fury in Stone
Could a renamed Fanatical Advance be appropriate here?
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