The Book of Klaw

[Ronin]

I think the power needs to be significantly weaker.

Definitely agree that messing with enemy defense would be the right move, over messing with enemy attack.

Besides Panther, I also like that that would let him cut through Songbird's defense boost - she uses tech stolen from Klaw and he shows her up pretty hard when they meet.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, messing with enemy defense is my preference as well.

[Ericth74]

Originally Posted by Ronin

I think the power needs to be significantly weaker.

Definitely agree that messing with enemy defense would be the right move, over messing with enemy attack.

Besides Panther, I also like that that would let him cut through Songbird's defense boost - she uses tech stolen from Klaw and he shows her up pretty hard when they meet.

I probably should of elaborated some more. I see Klaw as a strong villian in the 250 range or that's where I planned his design to be at that level. This may be my own inexperience as a designer. But if he's currently at the calculator at 250 and we keep reducing, do we need to think about pumping some other things up? He's taken the Thing down on multiple occasions so he's not a wimp.

[IAmBatman]

There's a good chance I also undervalued that power on the calculator. I'd get powers set first and then run the calculator on that version and see where it is before getting too worried. I think with the proposed change, he could still hit mid-200s.

Boosting his defense to 6 could help if you're concerned, though, as that'd at least help his own survivability.

[Ericth74]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

There's a good chance I also undervalued that power on the calculator. I'd get powers set first and then run the calculator on that version and see where it is before getting too worried. I think with the proposed change, he could still hit mid-200s.

Boosting his defense to 6 could help if you're concerned, though, as that'd at least help his own survivability.

Yeah we can do that.

[IAmBatman]

Fwiw, Body of Sound would be a pretty cool name for the Immortal Klaw power and keep it reusable in case we found somewhere else that it made sense. It does a nice job of explaining what's going on mechanically as well.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

But if he's currently at the calculator at 250 and we keep reducing, do we need to think about pumping some other things up?

My main concern is with how good he is at passively nerfing enemy attack rolls. I'm not so much worried about where he comes in points-wise, so fine by me if we fiddle with his durability or what have you to get him in a range that feels right.

[Ericth74]

Originally Posted by Ronin

My main concern is with how good he is at passively nerfing enemy attack rolls. I'm not so much worried about where he comes in points-wise, so fine by me if we fiddle with his durability or what have you to get him in a range that feels right.

I do see your point. I think limiting it to defensive rolls does nerf it pretty good from the original.

[Splash]

I'm liking this design as well! I'll have to base my figure soon.
The only thing I'd note is I don't think he really flies, intangibility would make much more sense, but I know four powers can't often fit on the card. Maybe throw a line or two into the Immortal Klaw/Made of Solid Sound type power. But I'd rather he just didn't have Flying if it came down to having it off or on.
For me he is primarily a Black Panther villain who killed T'Chaka, iattacks Wakanda, and works with A.I.M., so I agree Terrorist is the best class for him.

[MrNobody]

Random pipe dream idea - what if we gave him some sort of tie-in to Ambitious and Brilliant figures? That ties into AIM, but also Wizard, who as I said earlier is a big ally for him as well.

Maybe Sonic Disruption can get a boost if the figure is Ambitious/Brilliant?

[IAmBatman]

I could see the roll being boosted if he is around those figures as they might help him use the tech more tactically.

[Ericth74]

A tie into to AIM would be pretty cool.