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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Breathing)

Really dig that!

I am planning on maybe hitting a Marc Spector design one day that lets you switch between Moon Knights that have different classes. Could be fun to give this guy a different class to play into that, but also kinda fine with him filling the same "niche" as MK vI in that kind of build.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Initial Playte

Yeah I’m not sure what other class would be fitting, open to recommendations if there’s a really good one though!

I propose a vote to move to Initial Playtesting.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Initial Playte

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Initial Playte

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Initial Playte

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Initial Playte

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

This passes.

Testing Version:
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C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Moon Knight

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Moon Knight(190), Luke Cage(190), Cap(220), Spider-Woman(250), Spider-Man(250) (1100)
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Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240), Gamora(300), She-Hulk(310) (1100)
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Moon Knight(190), Wasp(160), She-Hulk(370), Wolverine(270) (990)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Thing(340), Daredevil(200) (990)
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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Moon Knight(190), Cap(220), Ms. Marvel(350), Quicksilver(240) (1000)
vs.
Fantastic Four (1000)
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Army Test 4
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Moon Knight(190), Cap(220), Ms. Marvel(350), Vision(340) (1100)
vs.
Professor X(220), Gorgon(300), Phoenix(230), Colossus(260), Angel(90) (1100)
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Army Test 5
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Moon Knight(190), Cap(240), Spider-Man(280), War Machine(260), Scarlet Witch(330) (1300)
vs.
Hawkwoman(260), Green Arrow(210), Black Canary(220), Wonder Woman(310), Martian Manhunter(300) (1300)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
He serves a decent purpose. All of his powers had their uses in most of the games. Audacious Avenger of course is nice to save some key figures when possible. Can certainly challenge the opponent to get around him or force them to prioritize him first. Relentless Resolve was cool, allowing you to keep attacking to try and inflict at least one wound when it really counts, at the cost of unrevealed Order Markers or wounds on him, which can sometimes be a good tradeoff depending how important that wound is to get. Rise With the Moon obviously didn't come into play in games his team won, which of course is nice, and was cool to see him come back at the end when needed to save that last ally to potentially try and turn the tides.

Scarlet had some interesting interactions with some newer Avenger figures like War Machine who doesn't need to worry about LEAs again, and for Moon Knight she can bring him back and he can just keep attacking til he hits at least one wound, thanks to them not able to be destroyed during that turn. Pretty neat combo, though she removes him from the game when doing so, so it can be a hard judgement call to make if he's not already used Rise With the Moon, which assumed she's the last one and on death's door. Was worth the attempt in my last game against the JL since Scarlet was so weak to Hawkwoman's Nth Metal Defense, she needed whatever help she could right away.

Overall, he could probably come down a little in points? He's super easy to take out with 4 Life and 4 Defense. Even if he comes back a second time, you'll see his impact in each game was fairly minor, which isn't necessarily bad, but he never felt like a pest or anything and was quickly disposed of in most cases both times on the board. So either we up his Defense to 5, Life to 5, or just let his points come down a hair. 2 of his powers hurt his own life essentially to use, so 5 Life may not be that crazy? Not sure. Cool with whatever though.

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

Few games in, I've cut the d20 auto-wounding from when he's brought back and made it so you have to place the wound or remove the OM before each additional attack rather than after(depending on if he caused the wound).

Both should help streamline him and keep his points down, which I prefer.

So far he's been fun. Absorbing wounds is of course nice, and Relentless Resolve is cool in that you're almost guaranteeing yourself finishing off a near death enemy in a pinch, as long as you're willing to pay with OMs or wounds.

Rise With the Moon was super lucky in the initial 3 games, coming back right away after dying. However, in game 4 he failed all 3 attempts and it costed his team. So it's nice that it's not a guarantee, giving the opponent a chance to score some wounds on key figures before his return.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

Just for the sake of doing something a bit different and interesting, how would people feel if we did something like this?
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Once per game, when the last figure you control would be destroyed, if Moon Knight is destroyed, remove all Wound Markers from this card and place him on an empty space on the battlefield.
I feel like that maybe captures him in a bit of a cooler way?

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

I like that.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

I'll wait to get buy in from others before proceeding. I think with that change, we could drop his life by 1 and up his move by 1? Probably should be faster than 5, and him getting a guaranteed resurrection near the end, 1 life down makes sense.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

Yeah, that’s pretty cool. I’d agree with a life drop.
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