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Old July 4th, 2009, 10:17 AM
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Re: How will we know Wave 9 sales performance?

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I have to say that, given all the means of advertising these days, even with its costs in some venues, it seems that Heroscape gets far less publicity in general than it should. It should be seen by marketing as a SUPER CROSSOVER DESIGN! After all, whatever your topic of interest, HS has got it covered to some degree. Someone interested in only one aspect could collect the figures for that topic and just play it to death (Asian military/martial arts, Horror, D&D, Hi Tech Agents and Robots, Superheroes, etc.) in one topic/genre alone, supplementing Classic figures with Customs (I have a Mongol army and Dwarf, Orc, Ancient Gladiator and Elite Roman armies for example).

Ah, for the days when I actually saw Heroscape commercials on the SciFi/SyFy Channel! Where's the love?
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Dudes we spend all weekend together gaming and you don't tell me that you got hired on my WotC?!
That musta been a good time I imagine
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Dudes we spend all weekend together gaming and you don't tell me that you got hired on my WotC?!
That musta been a good time I imagine
Ya wish you could have been there but I hear you were off hunting ghosts. and watching Star Wars porn.




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That musta been a good time I imagine
Ya wish you could have been there but I hear you were off hunting ghosts. and watching Star Wars porn.
I have not seen anything as beautiful as Star Wars porn in a long time...oh wait, there was one thing just as beautiful. And that is the Truth
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Re: How will we know Wave 9 sales performance?

As of today, Coolstuffinc has sold out of Brawlers/Braves and only has 3 Dwarves/Repulsors in stock. The other site-supporter retailers seem to have everything still – maybe this just reflects Coolstuffinc’s aggressive “high volume, move the product” kinda philosophy. They have the lowest prices per pack, so maybe they’re the first to sell out.
Whatever. Which retailer has sold out of which pack isn’t really the point here. I just think it speaks highly of Wave 9’s performance that we’re seeing units sell out by 2 months after release. Unless this is just a momentary restocking hiccup and I should just be ignoring it.

Oh, and maybe Wave 1 is starting to dry up, too – they’re out of Romans and have <20 of Gruts and Snipers/Vipers.

All of which got me thinking about the HOT! SEXY! NEWS! about maybe Wave 10 arriving 10/23. All of these units have been done for a good long while, right? The playtesters were doing Steamroller years ago, etc. Maybe Hasbro/WOTC is sitting on a bigger backlog than we realize, what with the company shift and all. Maybe Wave 10 (or whatever) has been in production for a while already, and they were planning to release in 2010 or something. Maybe these 10/23 rumors are a trial balloon to see if all the plasticrack addicts still have money/enthusiasm left over from the long delay between Waves 8 & 9. Maybe our aggressive purchasing over the summer is convincing WOTC to step up with HS plans moving forward into the future.

…or maybe I’m just another overthinking fanboy.

Your thoughts?

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Re: How will we know Wave 9 sales performance?

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As of today, Coolstuffinc has sold out of Brawlers/Braves and only has 3 Dwarves/Repulsors in stock.
My buddies and I just bought 6 packs from them. That may have skewed the results...
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Old August 2nd, 2009, 10:41 AM
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Re: How will we know Wave 9 sales performance?

I was stupid three or so years ago when I did not get all the sets of commons that I saw (I would get one or two when I eventually needed or ended up wanting three or four). When things started becoming scarce a couple of years ago and with the fiasco of wave 8 that could not be found for months, I wised up. Now I get three-to-four sets of commons for every new wave at release. As long as new waves keep coming, WotC will get hundred$ from most of us. I don't own more than one of each unique hero, with few exceptions, but some around here own multiple uniques. Who does not have three or more sets of ashigarus? Blastatrons? 4th Mass? 10th? Once you get hooked to plasticrack, you are hooked forever! I wonder how the drop out rate is. Even then, if you drop out and loose touch, and happen to walk accross a new wave, you want back in. It's a safe and sound addiction... for most... and better than most other addictions.

One more thing about Heroscape is that waves will sell well even out of season. With toy/games being highly seasonal, it is nice to have products like Heroscape that are less seasonal. What is selling hot than expansion sets outside of Christmas?

I don't care about choosing my army based on strategy. I choose an army based on coolness and personal appeal... even if it means that my units will die trying. Hail to the glory of HeroScape and bravery.
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Re: How will we know Wave 9 sales performance?

Being new to Heroscape, and new to these boards, I realize that all you veterans are much less paranoid about our favorite game dying the death someday. But I can't help but wonder what the "glory days" were like.

I breezed through Wikipedia, finding that in the early years there were upwards of 6 releases a year, including multiple waves and even new master sets. In 2009, the year I discovered Heroscape, there has been ONE release. And as far as I can tell, that may be all we're due for.

I've seen the arguments and debates. I know this is a transitionary period for WotC, and that HS generally "sells well," and that Cool Stuff Inc. has sold off most of their stock, but how can even the most die-hard amongst you not fear the demise?

There were 6 expansions and waves in 2005, 6 in 2006, SotM and Marvel and 2 expansions in 2007, 3 expansions or waves in 2008, and now, 1 in 2009. Factually, things are tapering off. I've looked at videos and listened to podcasts from GenCons past, and things are tapering off.

The arguments about a "different type of player" and a big change in distribution are sound, of course, but coming in this late in the game, there are signs I can't ignore. I walked through Toys R Us yesterday, and wondered why they had 8 versions of Monopoly, but can't carry even one master set? The manager there said Heroscape sold really well when they carried it, and wondered why is seemed to just disappear.

So, count me in on the doom and gloom. I want to believe Wizards loves and serves our brand, but looking at the evidence objectively, it's hard to believe that the sky is not, in fact, falling.
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Re: How will we know Wave 9 sales performance?

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Being new to Heroscape, and new to these boards, I realize that all you veterans are much less paranoid about our favorite game dying the death someday. But I can't help but wonder what the "glory days" were like.

I breezed through Wikipedia, finding that in the early years there were upwards of 6 releases a year, including multiple waves and even new master sets. In 2009, the year I discovered Heroscape, there has been ONE release. And as far as I can tell, that may be all we're due for.

I've seen the arguments and debates. I know this is a transitionary period for WotC, and that HS generally "sells well," and that Cool Stuff Inc. has sold off most of their stock, but how can even the most die-hard amongst you not fear the demise?

There were 6 expansions and waves in 2005, 6 in 2006, SotM and Marvel and 2 expansions in 2007, 3 expansions or waves in 2008, and now, 1 in 2009. Factually, things are tapering off. I've looked at videos and listened to podcasts from GenCons past, and things are tapering off.

The arguments about a "different type of player" and a big change in distribution are sound, of course, but coming in this late in the game, there are signs I can't ignore. I walked through Toys R Us yesterday, and wondered why they had 8 versions of Monopoly, but can't carry even one master set? The manager there said Heroscape sold really well when they carried it, and wondered why is seemed to just disappear.

So, count me in on the doom and gloom. I want to believe Wizards loves and serves our brand, but looking at the evidence objectively, it's hard to believe that the sky is not, in fact, falling.
The TRU thing was completely about business dealings. TRU demanded pricing that WotC couldn't or wouldn't grant so their business agreement was desolved.
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There were 6 expansions and waves in 2005, 6 in 2006...
Also, I don't believe this is factually correct. Six expansions/waves in 2005 and six more in 2006? I'm not so sure. I didn't start my Heroscape addiction until summer 2007, but since Heroscape began in 2004 and Wave 7 was only just coming out in 2007, I doubt 12 expansions came out in 2005-2006. Feel free to spread the doom and gloom, but not with incorrect statements.
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There were 6 expansions and waves in 2005, 6 in 2006...
Also, I don't believe this is factually correct. ...
I also have no idea how the heck he is doing his counting. I've been around since the beginning (more or less) and while I didn't keep track I know that there was a never a year with 6 expansions.

Even if he's counting Large/Terrain expansions separately there's only been 18 new expansions (including SOTM), and if we're counting them that way then 3 of them came out last year. And we really should count the re-releases as well, so 4 last year, 2 this year. Not bad.

Really, dingofire, a little bit of fact checking. You aren't impressing anyone by moaning about things that never happened.
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