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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

It's probably less than a year old, but it's been that way for a few months at least.

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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

I will take a shot at Conan. I think I can get started tonight.
Here is one of Conan's greatest battles. By Robert E. Howard.
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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

So you are planning on sending him after some Frost Giants then?
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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

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So you are planning on sending him after some Frost Giants then?
Possibly. He is faring well thus far.

Do you have any builds you want see him against(or with) YK?

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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

No, nothing particular pops out as his synergies and weaknesses are not really a factor here. I guess if you want you can send him at some squads to see how good he is at fighting his way through them but I know you are not a big squad guy so don't feel like you have too. I'm sure he will get some squad tests done during the public testing.
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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (Conan)

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
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- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
?Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
?Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit too powerful or too weak.
?Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
?Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
?Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
?Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
?Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
?Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
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Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200-ish.
- Give a brief overview. Conan stands on a pile of skulls.
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200 or less.
- Give a brief overview. Biological warfare trumps axe and sword.
Map: Fossil.
Units: A.I.M Agents(x3){210}.
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200 or less.
- Give a brief overview. It only takes three Guns to stop Conan.
Map: Fossil.
Units: Hired Guns & Beat Cops{195}.
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200.
- Give a brief overview. Conan gets lucky and only takes one wound from the first of the Hawkamen.
Map: Fossil.
Units: Hawkmen(x2){200}.
[spoiler](summary)(BoB 1,2,2 & 2,3 & 3,3).
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Conan, 2 left.
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200 or less.
- Give a brief overview. Too many bullets Conan.
Map: Fossil.
Units: 5th Precinct Beat Cops(x5){195}.
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200.
- Give a brief overview. Conan fights well but Mars wins.
Map: Fulcrum.
Units: Conan, Captain America(240) & Gorilla Man vs. Black Tarantuala & Martian Manhunter.
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200.
- Give a brief overview. Conan's is headed for a lopsided victory when Batman decides to go Batman.
Map: Fulcrum.
Units: Conan, Fatality, Grey Gargoyle & Wonder Woman vs. Batman(200), Lizard, Green Lantern(300) & Red Tornado.
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Conan makes a good showing but Batman shows him what a real 200 point figure can do. The most incredible display I have ever experienced with Batman.
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200 maybe less.
- Give a brief overview. Conan cleaves his way through Dragon Man but Magneto's powers fizzle.
Map: Fossil.
Units: Conan, Baron Zemo(170), Magneto(375), Ant Map & Invisible Woman(215) vs. Frankenstein, Wendigo & Dragon Man{990 each}.
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I really like the new power set. The movement changes certainly changed the way Conan had to play. I am still a bit torn on the Life 6. I think it will be OK. More tests needed.
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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

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No, nothing particular pops out as his synergies and weaknesses are not really a factor here. I guess if you want you can send him at some squads to see how good he is at fighting his way through them but I know you are not a big squad guy so don't feel like you have too. I'm sure he will get some squad tests done during the public testing.
I need to run at least two squad tests before the army tests so if you have any squads in mind let me know.

I posted some quick results from the Hero tests. Conan did amazingly well. He had a few things going for him. His movement, the Boom Tube and winning initiative against the fastest opponents. He got the first attack every battle except Lizard(his first and worst loss). He beat everyone else at 200 but lost against 210 and 220.

I have an idea to tone him down just slightly but I am not sure he needs it quite yet. I could run a few more Heavy Hitters with no Boom Tube. That may give some opponents a better chance at first strike on him.

I thought Battle Hardened would not work as good as it did. Only once(Lizard) did he take a big initial hit. His opponents rolled very poorly for defense in most every battle.

I will try to finish up tomorrow.

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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

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Try the blood demons, or A.I.M. agents. ZTry both if you like.

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this is obviously how he's survived the number of battles he's been in.

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Units: Blade Panther.
That's one character crossover I haven't heard of - when is he released.

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Conan seems to be fairly consistently just edging out 200 Point characters. Based on this, I'd guess he's probably worth around 210. Though he did lose against Buffy and a Frost Giant - maybe the first 205 point figure!

EDIT: Didn't see that his opponents were consistently rolling badly for defence - this would lead me to consider 200 or possibly even lower - 190 or 180 perhaps?

Yeah, teats without a Boom Tube seem a good idea - I generally don't use glyphs in testing.


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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

Tri-Ways really needs the Boom Tube for the ground pounders but Conan was certainly able to use it to his advantage.
I might get a few more one on ones in before moving to squads. Those are pretty quick and fun.

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Re: The Book of Conan - Initial PT Phase

Sounds like 200 so far, with possibility to move up or down, of course.

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