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Old September 18th, 2016, 12:08 AM
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The Book of Two-Face (II)

The Book of Two-Face (II)

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Arkham Asylum set.
Its model number and name are #007 / Two-Face.

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Character Bio - Two-Face is a super-villain obsessed with duality and the number "two." He is an enemy to Batman in Gotham City. In his private life he was Harvey Dent, Gotham's district attorney. The mobster Sal Maroni burned his face with a bottle of acid during trial. His psychosis leads him to believe that right and wrong don't matter, as everything is ruled by chance. To prove this, he makes decisions of good or evil based on the flip of a special coin. This makes him highly unpredictable as a criminal mastermind. He has been a member of the Injustice Gang and the Injustice League. Two-Face was created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger, first appearing in Detective Comics #66. (1942) - DC Wikia
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
  • If you are looking for a consistent defense boost throughout your game, you may consider not putting any additional Order Markers on Two-Face once the Good Side is face-up on his card.
  • Make sure to keep a Unique Crime Lord Hero or Unique Criminal Hero adjacent to Two-Face to keep him from being able to be targeted for an attack while the Good Side is face-up on his card.
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Re: The Book of Two-Face (II) (Breathing)

NAME = TWO-FACE
SECRET IDENTITY = HARVEY DENT

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIME LORD
PERSONALITY = CONFLICTED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 170


LET THE COIN DECIDE
Immediately after revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, you must flip the Two-Face Coin and place the face-up result on this card. Then, instead of taking a turn with Two-Face, you may take a turn with one Unique Crime Lord Hero or Unique Criminal Hero you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Two-Face.

FACE OF MERCY
While the Good Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, Two-Face and all Unique Crime Lord Heroes and Unique Criminal Heroes you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Two-Face roll 1 additional defense die, and if there is at least one Unique Crime Lord Hero or Unique Criminal Hero you control adjacent to Two-Face, Two-Face cannot be targeted for any attacks.

FACE OF CRUELTY
While the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, when Two-Face attacks, he may attack one additional time, and any other figures you control taking a turn with Let the Coin Decide roll 1 additional attack die. Immediately after any other figure you control takes a turn with Let the Coin Decide, you may take an immediate turn with Two-Face, and you may not take any additional turns with any other figures you control.

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Re: The Book of Two-Face (II) (Breathing)

Yea

Though some of the wording and timing in the SP has me confused, I'll take a shot at clearing it up:

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CHAOTIC LEADERSHIP
Immediately after revealing an Order Marker on this card, you must flip the Two-Face Coin and place the face-up result on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn with Two-Face, you may take a turn with one Unique Crime Lord or Criminal Hero you control. If you do and the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, you may then take an immediate turn with Two-Face. After using this special power, you may not take any additional turns with any other figures you control.

NO MERCY
While the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, any other figures you control taking a turn with Chaotic Leadership roll 1 additional attack die, and when Two-Face attacks, he may attack one additional time.

CRIMINAL TACTICIAN
If the Good Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card and there is at least one Unique Crime Lord or Criminal Hero you control adjacent to Two-Face, Two-Face cannot be attacked and all Unique Crime Lord and Criminal Heroes you control adjacent to Two-Face roll 1 additional defense die.
Is this correct with your intent? Primarily I reworked the wording in Chaotic Leadership.

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Re: The Book of Two-Face (II) (Breathing)

I worry about putting an increased range on the "Two-Face can't be attacked" bit, as then you could use Two-Face to engage figures while invincible, forcing them to take disengagements. Pair that with the right Crime Lord/Criminal and that feels very abusable to me.

Putting a range restriction on the rest would look like:

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LEADERSHIP DUALITY
Immediately after revealing an Order Marker on this card, you must flip the Two-Face Coin and place the face-up result on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn with Two-Face, you may take a turn with one Unique Crime Lord or Criminal Hero you control within 4 clear sight spaces of Two-Face. If you do and the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, you may then take an immediate turn with Two-Face. After using this special power, you may not take any additional turns with any other figures you control.

NO MERCY
While the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, any other figures you control taking a turn with Chaotic Leadership roll 1 additional attack die, and when Two-Face attacks, he may attack one additional time.

CRIMINAL TACTICIAN
While the Good Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, all Unique Crime Lord and Criminal Heroes you control within 4 clear sight spaces of Two-Face roll 1 additional defense die, and if there is at least one Unique Crime Lord or Criminal Hero you control adjacent to Two-Face, Two-Face cannot be attacked.

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Re: The Book of Two-Face (II) (Breathing)

Wording is pretty solid already:

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LEADERSHIP DUALITY
Immediately after revealing an Order Marker on this card, you must flip the Two-Face Coin and place the face-up result on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn with Two-Face, you may take a turn with one Unique Crime Lord or Criminal Hero you control within 4 clear sight spaces of Two-Face. If you do and the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, you may then take an immediate turn with Two-Face. After using this special power to take a turn with a figure other than Two-Face, you may not take any additional turns with any other figures you control.

NO MERCY
While the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, any other figures you control taking a turn with Leadership Duality roll 1 additional attack die, and when Two-Face attacks, he may attack one additional time.

CRIMINAL TACTICIAN
While the Good Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, all Unique Crime Lord and Criminal Heroes you control within 4 clear sight spaces of Two-Face roll 1 additional defense die, and if there is at least one Unique Crime Lord or Criminal Hero you control adjacent to Two-Face, Two-Face cannot be targeted for any attacksed.
As to names, No Mercy is fine with me, but something along the lines of Aggressive Assault would also be fine. Not a fan of Criminal Tactician here though; it's a very generic power name but the power is definitely not reusable. Something along the lines of Defensive Tactics or something like that maybe.

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Re: The Book of Two-Face (II) (Breathing)

Sorry to say this so late, but looking over johnny's edits/suggestions again, I think we should actually do this for the wording:

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LET THE COIN DECIDE
Immediately after revealing an numbered Order Marker on this card, you must flip the Two-Face Coin and place the face-up result on this card. Then, instead of taking a turn with Two-Face, you may take a turn with one Unique Crime Lord Hero or Unique Criminal Hero you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Two-Face. You may not take any additional turns with any other figures you control other than Two-Face.

FACE OF MERCY
While the Good Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, Two-Face and all Unique Crime Lord Heroes and Unique Criminal Heroes you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Two-Face roll 1 additional defense die, and if there is at least one Unique Crime Lord Hero or Unique Criminal Hero you control adjacent to Two-Face, Two-Face cannot be targeted for any attacks.

FACE OF CRUELTY
While the Scarred Side of the Two-Face Coin is face-up on this card, when Two-Face attacks, he may attack one additional time, and any other figures you control taking a turn with Let the Coin Decide roll 1 additional attack die. Immediately after any other figure other than Two-Face you control takes a turn with Let the Coin Decide, you may take an immediate turn with Two-Face, and you may not take any additional turns with any other figures you control.
The main point is putting the "no additional turns" in Face of Cruelty as opposed to Let the Coin Decide. I also standardized the "Unique Crime Lord Hero and/or Unique Criminal Hero" wording; using the full version in the first power but the shorter version in the others is risking confusion. I slipped a "numbered" into Let the Coin Decide to prevent weird interactions with the "X".

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Face of Cruelty isn't supposed to boost Two-Face's attack number is it? At some point we lost the "any other figure" line in Face of Cruelty if I'm right.

Copy and paste version:
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Lastly, I'd still like to see us put out an alternate card with a marker/D20 version; I personally think that version should be the "official" one and the coin version should be the alternate, but it's not that big a deal. Here's the text we'd be looking at for the marker/D20 alternate:

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LET THE COIN DECIDE
Immediately after revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, remove any grey Coin Markers on this card and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 10 or lower, place the Scarred Coin Marker on this card. If you roll 11 or higher, place the Good Coin marker on this card. Then, instead of taking a turn with Two-Face, you may take a turn with one Unique Crime Lord Hero or Unique Criminal Hero you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Two-Face. When rolling the 20-sided die for this special power, the roll cannot be modified by any glyph or any figure's special power.

FACE OF MERCY
While the Good Coin Marker is on this card, Two-Face and all Unique Crime Lord Heroes and Unique Criminal Heroes you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Two-Face roll 1 additional defense die, and if there is at least one Unique Crime Lord Hero or Unique Criminal Hero you control adjacent to Two-Face, Two-Face cannot be targeted for any attacks.

FACE OF CRUELTY
While the Scarred Coin Marker is on this card, when Two-Face attacks, he may attack one additional time, and any other figures you control taking a turn with Let the Coin Decide roll 1 additional attack die. Immediately after any other figure you control takes a turn with Let the Coin Decide, you may take an immediate turn with Two-Face, and you may not take any additional turns with any other figures you control.
The cards and coins look great by the way!

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So far I'm thinking dropping Range to 5 and Defense to 4 as desired.
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Re: The Book of Two-Face (II) (Breathing)

I'd agree with dropping his stats. I do want him to stay pretty well spaced out from the original Two-Face, but I think he'll still be worth a significant amount at 5/5/4/4.

We'll have to work out a consistent style for the "coin" since that's completely new territory. No real suggestions now, but I'd suggest it being capitalized as "Two-Face Coin" or "Adjective Coin" in general, to better match how we title specialty markers ("Battery Marker," "Energy Marker," and so on).
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I'd agree with dropping his stats. I do want him to stay pretty well spaced out from the original Two-Face, but I think he'll still be worth a significant amount at 5/5/4/4.

We'll have to work out a consistent style for the "coin" since that's completely new territory. No real suggestions now, but I'd suggest it being capitalized as "Two-Face Coin" or "Adjective Coin" in general, to better match how we title specialty markers ("Battery Marker," "Energy Marker," and so on).
I personally print out slightly larger stickers and use poker chips for markers. We could essentially make stickers for the two sides and they can be used as the marker. If we do the alternate card with the D20 version we would need the markers anyway.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Two-Face (II) (Breathing)

Well you already know my excitement to see this one and my previous comments have been taken into consideration already. I'm pleased with the design.

as to this...
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So far I'm thinking dropping Range to 5 and Defense to 4 as desired.
If I recall correctly those were the only points that were still being discussed so this decision will likely please anyone that was on the fence.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Looking forward to this one as well. It will be interesting to see how effective he is at bringing a team of criminals together.
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