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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
Now, for the promised design feedback. I think this design could use a little dose of restraint. Here are my thoughts:
4-dice fire line special attacks have thus far been reserved for Dragons and other Large+ units The only other non-dragon large units I know of with an attack of 4 are the Incendiborgs, and their fire line only goes out 2 spaces Rhogar Dragonspine's fire breath goes out to 3 spaces... but he has 3 attack I suggest reining in the design a little with either 4 attack and 2 spaces or (my personal strong preference) 3 attack and 3 spaces. You may need to bring the price down (maybe not) but I think it will make for a better design overall, and probably more likely to pass the VC sniff-test if we end up going that route. Formerly known as capsocrates -- Remixed Master Sets - challenge yourself with new terrain combinations! -- Colorado Fall 2023 Multiplayer Madness -- caps's Customs Redux - caps's multiplayer maps - caps's maps - Seagate -- Continuing Classic Heroscape: C3V SoV |
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
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Thaaaat said, I've been a mix of busy/slacking here and haven't gotten hands on with this design. I'll put her through her paces some and keep your points in mind while I do. I may also consider suggesting other tweaks (maybe 5 L or 5-6 range) to reign her in in other ways. |
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
To put it differently, the 4-attack, 3-space version feels like it lacks too much restraint.
If the 3-attack, 3-space version is weaker than 120 points then that is a cool thing IMO--there's nothing like her at, say, 90 points. Formerly known as capsocrates -- Remixed Master Sets - challenge yourself with new terrain combinations! -- Colorado Fall 2023 Multiplayer Madness -- caps's Customs Redux - caps's multiplayer maps - caps's maps - Seagate -- Continuing Classic Heroscape: C3V SoV |
#148
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
3A, 3R sounds fine to me. We need to be careful about low 100s figures in he set anyway.
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#150
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
I would be happy with 3A, but only if they are two separate attacks.
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
I'm perfectly fine with a drop to 3 attack on the special. (I'm much less excited about making it two attacks.) But then, I don't agree with caps in the first place. I think the unit is fine as a powerhouse, it is also fine as a lower-cost 3-attack version. Which version is more fitting for the set is more of a question of rest of the master set.
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
I agree with Scytale. Pyria could work just fine with 4 attack or with 3 attack and a reduced price. Which one fits the best is more of a question of the set as a whole. Right now, we don't have many sub-100 point options, but there are still plenty of units left that haven't been designed yet.
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
Right now, Sorin and Kiora are lookinh like they’ll be sub 100. Won’t be surprised if Nahiri joins them.
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
Could we put a hold on discussion of the two options until we have a better sense of the rest of the set? I think that the difference between 4A/4R and 3A/3R is small enough that we can have a good sense of the unit until we zero in on costs across the set.
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Re: [Pod 1] PYRIA (Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer) - Playtesting
I'm not sure I agree. I suspect the unit may play differently with a weaker special. Right now the potency of the special is too good to pass up. With a weaker special she may be more willing to sit back and rely on her normal attack. Though 3A may not be where that line gets crossed.
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