Aquaman (Arthur Curry) (Justice League)

[Sporx]

Bats - This has a slight change from your earlier drafts - his starting space does not become water when the OM is revealed. He MUST move under this wording, before the water aura activates.

[IAmBatman]

Yes, but that's needed for a clean on switch, IMO. Actually, though, that was the justification for dropping the OM requirement, since he has to do something active to trigger it still.

[IAmBatman]

I think that trading the moving into the space trigger for the OM reveal trigger keeps him about the same. I can run a sanity test if folks are worried, but it seems like a pretty fair exchange IMO, while taking care of clarity issues when it comes to interactions with potential other terrain changers.

So I'm going to go back to officially proposing this change:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I'd like to make a big wording and slight mechanical change here to help Aquaman's terrain ability have clearer timing and it be clearer when one terrain change overwrites another, etc.

Basically I'd like to take this:

And updated it to:

It's actually shorter as well.

@Arkham @Yodaking @Ericth74 @MrNobody @Tornado

[Ericth74]

Yea

Not needing the OM definitely makes it better.

[Arkham]

Yea

As long as the effect stays indefinitely until he moves off of it, should still be decent. Hard to say if the OM requirement will make much of a difference on how he was tested or not.

[Yodaking]

Yea, I think it has a few pluses and minuses such that it should wash out in the end. Just different, not more or less impactful.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Arkham

Yea

As long as the effect stays indefinitely until he moves off of it, should still be decent. Hard to say if the OM requirement will make much of a difference on how he was tested or not.

I'll definitely try to run a couple of games with him with the change before release, but I'm not terribly worried. Does let very select match ups overwrite his water, but he just has to move again to change it back.

[Sporx]

The other thing different, as written in the proposal: he always has a water aura after his first move of the game. There is no “off switch” like in 1.0 at the end of a round.

[IAmBatman]

True. Though I can't ever remember playing him and not having water active. I guess it makes him work a lot better with Order Marker hubs, though.

[IAmBatman]

If we're worried about power level, could always do like:

SUMMON THE SEVEN SEAS
When Aquaman enters a space, that space and all land spaces within 1 space become water. During clean up, or when he leaves that space, the effect ends. While occupying water, when Aquaman makes a normal attack action, he may separately attack any adjacent figures.

Then he'd have to move again at the start of the next round to trigger it again, and also if he was camping on lava, he'd feel the effect at the end of the round. What do folks think of that tweak?

[Sporx]

Option 1 is more streamlined and only requires remembering if he moved at all during the game. Option 2 is less powerful, if that is a concern, but requires remembering if he moved this round, with no clear marker of the OM as in 1.0.

[Yodaking]

Yeah, that might be a good safe guard. I did like that the fact it turned off before.