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Old June 14th, 2017, 03:06 PM
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Re: The Book of Penguin (II) (Initial Playtest)

But he is giving up a turn to do it.
Maybe the movement alone will be enough but you are giving up a full turn's worth of attacks to do so.

The part that stands out to me is the Vigilante immunity to GP. I assume that is because of Batman? I would rather just call Batman out specifically or drop it all together.
If any character is above a bribe, it is Judge Dredd, I would put Lawmen right behind him.
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Re: The Book of Penguin (II) (Initial Playtest)

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But he is giving up a turn to do it.
Maybe the movement alone will be enough but you are giving up a full turn's worth of attacks to do so.

The part that stands out to me is the Vigilante immunity to GP. I assume that is because of Batman? I would rather just call Batman out specifically or drop it all together.
If any character is above a bribe, it is Judge Dredd, I would put Lawmen right behind him.
I don't see Gordon taking a bribe or succumbing to blackmail either so perhaps just expand it to Vigilante or Lawman unique heroes? I suppose Judge Dredd is a Judge though isn't he so you would also need to include Judges. Then an argument could be made that someone like Superman also shouldn't be influenced. Maybe just drop the immunity all together since he can only use it 3 times in total anyway? Perhaps the bribe marker shouldn't be thought of as a direct bribe to the one hero but Penguin using his money to influence others and manipulate events. So Batman isn't taking a bribe but rather Penguin is exerting influence through other means that lead to a domino effect that gets Batman to pull his punches. Maybe Penguin has Vicky Vale tied up somewhere and uses her to get to Batman, and that cost money.
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Re: The Book of Penguin (II) (Initial Playtest)

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But he is giving up a turn to do it.
Maybe the movement alone will be enough but you are giving up a full turn's worth of attacks to do so.

The part that stands out to me is the Vigilante immunity to GP. I assume that is because of Batman? I would rather just call Batman out specifically or drop it all together.
If any character is above a bribe, it is Judge Dredd, I would put Lawmen right behind him.
I don't see Gordon taking a bribe or succumbing to blackmail either so perhaps just expand it to Vigilante or Lawman unique heroes? I suppose Judge Dredd is a Judge though isn't he so you would also need to include Judges. Then an argument could be made that someone like Superman also shouldn't be influenced. Maybe just drop the immunity all together since he can only use it 3 times in total anyway? Perhaps the bribe marker shouldn't be thought of as a direct bribe to the one hero but Penguin using his money to influence others and manipulate events. So Batman isn't taking a bribe but rather Penguin is exerting influence through other means that lead to a domino effect that gets Batman to pull his punches. Maybe Penguin has Vicky Vale tied up somewhere and uses her to get to Batman, and that cost money.
I'd buy that argument. Just change the name of the Markers.

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Re: The Book of Penguin (II) (Initial Playtest)

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But he is giving up a turn to do it.
Maybe the movement alone will be enough but you are giving up a full turn's worth of attacks to do so.

The part that stands out to me is the Vigilante immunity to GP. I assume that is because of Batman? I would rather just call Batman out specifically or drop it all together.
If any character is above a bribe, it is Judge Dredd, I would put Lawmen right behind him.
I don't see Gordon taking a bribe or succumbing to blackmail either so perhaps just expand it to Vigilante or Lawman unique heroes? I suppose Judge Dredd is a Judge though isn't he so you would also need to include Judges. Then an argument could be made that someone like Superman also shouldn't be influenced. Maybe just drop the immunity all together since he can only use it 3 times in total anyway? Perhaps the bribe marker shouldn't be thought of as a direct bribe to the one hero but Penguin using his money to influence others and manipulate events. So Batman isn't taking a bribe but rather Penguin is exerting influence through other means that lead to a domino effect that gets Batman to pull his punches. Maybe Penguin has Vicky Vale tied up somewhere and uses her to get to Batman, and that cost money.
I'd buy that argument. Just change the name of the Markers.
Make then Influence Markers or Leverage Markers. Trying to restrict who it can be used against seems messy and would always include massive numbers of theme breaks - even if you make it so it doesn't work on Judges, Lawmen, Vigilantes or Champions to cut Dredd, Gordon, Batman and Superman out, you'd still have him bribing Spider-Man, Captain America etc. - it just wouldn't work.
Still not a fan of the gang up mechanic, honestly - I really liked the idea of him being a subtle leader unless you **** him off.

EDIT: Really, auto-censor? That was too much for you?


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