Pelloth Pre-Release Discussion Thread

[Tai-Pan]

I'm making some Pre-Release Discussion Threads so that no one needs to worry about books right now. We can keep all the excitement of finally seeing everything in these threads. The books could be created later, like when the figures actually come out and we can play with them instead of rampantly TheoryScaping. The idea is to keep the books a little cleaner, but still provide a place for figure-specific discussion until later.

[Tai-Pan]

This guy is awesome. I love the idea of an evil guy blowing up his own troops. Lurk in the shadows is pretty cool too. 3 defence and 4 life won't hold up real well if he gets caught in the open or engaged, but that seems balancing. This is probably my favorite figure from the new master set. Well done.

[GromBloodboy]

This guy is my favorite from this set by far! Tandros is cool, but this guy takes the cake. All you have to do is to get him to camp on a hill of shadow, and watch him make a mess of drow and other figures body parts! He is really my favorite unit from this set, and his pose is cool.

[wriggz]

Pelloth, My thoughts:
1. His card says Drow, so you can use any drow figures they come out with in the future, even heroes that only have 0ne life left.
2. Pelloth with 3 x Drow = 310, leaving 190 points left to round out an army. I'm thinking Q9 or Nief. The big heros will help take care of other big hero's and instant death figures would be in trouble with the drow. You could even leave out one squad and throw in Raelin, giving a good boost to the entire squad. Ratz would suffer From the big guns, so this set could work.
3. On the right map it will be hard to hit the drow so range might suffer.
4. Pelloth also has range so he will be worth it in many armies based on stats as a good clean up after all the Drow bit the dust. Also he has the range of 7 with the Drow bonus and can't be hit by range so he really should last to the end game.
5. Laughing maniacally as you roll each dice is not only suggested, it is required.

First army I'm Playing:
Pelloth 100
2 x Drow: 240
2 x Spiders: 320
Sojoah 505

[GreenLanturn]

This guy has a huge target on his head!

His lurk skill is terrain based. That means that power is at the mercy of the map makers; there could be no shadow tiles, there could be only a few in very poor places, or there could be a whole ton everywhere. The first two options are more likely than the last.

Without shadow he is made of paper, and you'll need to protect him pretty well to do some real damage. I'm skeptical about this guy; he has a strong ability, but armies with range or disengage will hurt Palloth quite a bit.

[WOOKIE]

I can't decide just yet but he might be the coolest.
His special reminds me of a powerful gun that uses gold bullets. They can cost a lot & not always abundant.
I'm excited & grateful to all the people responsible. Lets have some fun!

[Yodaking]

I can see the benifits of destroying your own drow figures when facing high defense squad members or heros (setinels, deathwalkers), but when facing low to medium defence guys, I don't think I would risk killing my own figure just to see me roll no skulls at all on 3 dice.

It's actually too bad you have to control the drow figure destoryed in the attack. In the books the drow fight each other as much as anyone else so it would have been cool if you could use the power to destory an opponents drow along with his buddies near him.

[quozl]

I assume he can also destroy himself if the occasion calls for it.

[Fencerjared]

Originally Posted by quozl

I assume he can also destroy himself if the occasion calls for it.

I don't think any figure can ever target itself with an attack, whether special or normal.

[quozl]

Originally Posted by Fencerjared

I don't think any figure can ever target itself with an attack, whether special or normal.

I'm not so sure. What about those special attacks that specifically mention that it doesn't affect that figure?

[Robotech Master]

Originally Posted by quozl

I'm not so sure. What about those special attacks that specifically mention that it doesn't affect that figure?

That's only written for Area-effecting attacks. IOW, when an attack like a shotgun affects the target and all adjacent figures next to that target. That little line is to make sure Johny Shotgun can't shotgun himself.

That doesn't apply here. Furthermore, I believe Pelloth can't target himself as a Drow for use of this power for the same reason that Sir Dupuis can't count himself as a knight to boost his own attack.

[Fencerjared]

Originally Posted by quozl

I'm not so sure. What about those special attacks that specifically mention that it doesn't affect that figure?

Those are for area effect attacks like shotgun blast, so you can use them when the figure is engaged. According to the FAQ,

Originally Posted by HeroScape Advanced FAQ, Page 5 "Attacks"

Can a figure target itself with a ranged attack?
No, a figure cannot target itself unless otherwise
stated on the Army Card

In order to use Lolth's Wrath on Pelloth, he would have to target himself. However, you could cause him to be affected by the attack if you were so foolish as to do so.

Edit: Damn, ninja'd on my own response! I hate working on days they release HeroScape information... or when there is HeroScape at my house waiting to be played, or on days ending with the letter Y....